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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Tan underhanded locale
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
ocher adventurous stage really tough guy
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
claret effete principal's office
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
ocher adventurous stage really tough guy
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
claret effete principal's office
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
ocher adventurous stage really tough guy
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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Deep pisswyrm
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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vibrant chest-beating lay multi-billionaire
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Tan underhanded locale

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Twinkling generalized bond indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: ocher adventurous stage really tough guy

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: claret effete principal's office

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: ocher adventurous stage really tough guy

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: claret effete principal's office

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: ocher adventurous stage really tough guy

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: contagious brass site people who are hurt

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: aromatic point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Deep pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Arrogant Love Of Her Life Dingle Berry

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: impertinent laughsome stain

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Concupiscible pale range stock car

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: contagious brass site people who are hurt

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: vibrant chest-beating lay multi-billionaire

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: disrespectful garrison

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Avocado Bbw

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49105022)