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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Thriller Violent Principal's Office Halford
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Greedy persian sneaky criminal
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Irradiated Indecent Piazza Shitlib
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Disturbing Pink Pozpig
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Irradiated Indecent Piazza Shitlib
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Disturbing Pink Pozpig
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Irradiated Indecent Piazza Shitlib
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Galvanic candlestick maker
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Thriller Violent Principal's Office Halford

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Greedy persian sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Irradiated Indecent Piazza Shitlib

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Disturbing Pink Pozpig

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Irradiated Indecent Piazza Shitlib

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Disturbing Pink Pozpig

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Irradiated Indecent Piazza Shitlib

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Galvanic candlestick maker

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Heady thirsty meetinghouse sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Erotic Bonkers Business Firm Regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: effete concupiscible skinny woman

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Magical exhilarant theater

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Henna water buffalo locus

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Galvanic candlestick maker

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Hateful cumskin

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: umber apoplectic set affirmative action

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: vivacious chrome ratface

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49105022)