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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
up-to-no-good gay wizard field
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
Concupiscible salmon trailer park nibblets
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
up-to-no-good gay wizard field
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
Concupiscible salmon trailer park nibblets
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
Concupiscible salmon trailer park nibblets
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
vigorous dilemma
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
up-to-no-good gay wizard field
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
up-to-no-good gay wizard field
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
up-to-no-good gay wizard field
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated
Comical lime location private investor
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
Thirsty aggressive dopamine senate
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
Boyish son of senegal
  04/05/26
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Sienna crackhouse
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
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  04/05/26
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Comical lime location private investor
  04/05/26
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aqua aromatic community account codepig
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
diverse useless brakes casino
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
offensive jade macaca
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
white menage foreskin
  04/06/26
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Boyish son of senegal
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Sienna crackhouse
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
white menage foreskin
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Sienna crackhouse
  04/07/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: up-to-no-good gay wizard field

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Concupiscible salmon trailer park nibblets

He's undoubtedly top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: up-to-no-good gay wizard field

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible salmon trailer park nibblets

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Concupiscible salmon trailer park nibblets

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

all 3 above above ryan?



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: vigorous dilemma

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: up-to-no-good gay wizard field

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

he's def most high iq though, no?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: up-to-no-good gay wizard field

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: up-to-no-good gay wizard field

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Comical lime location private investor

he's appropriately rated

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Thirsty aggressive dopamine senate

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Sienna crackhouse



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: jet low-t sanctuary karate

Pedro was better (than anyone).

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: Comical lime location private investor



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: aqua aromatic community account codepig



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: diverse useless brakes casino

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: offensive jade macaca

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: white menage foreskin

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: Boyish son of senegal



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Sienna crackhouse

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: white menage foreskin

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Sienna crackhouse

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

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