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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
Haunting ruddy deer antler
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
diverse sickened orchestra pit sound barrier
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
Haunting ruddy deer antler
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
diverse sickened orchestra pit sound barrier
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
diverse sickened orchestra pit sound barrier
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
Crimson lodge
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
Haunting ruddy deer antler
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
Haunting ruddy deer antler
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
Haunting ruddy deer antler
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated
drunken spectacular filthpig
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
swollen round eye
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/05/26
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bat shit crazy hideous step-uncle's house masturbator
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
costumed private investor stead
  04/05/26
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drunken spectacular filthpig
  04/05/26
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stubborn know-it-all selfie
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
Salmon alpha
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
Hairraiser principal's office
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
Boyish tank bawdyhouse
  04/06/26
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Disturbing cerebral ticket booth
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
bat shit crazy hideous step-uncle's house masturbator
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
Boyish tank bawdyhouse
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
bat shit crazy hideous step-uncle's house masturbator
  04/07/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: Haunting ruddy deer antler

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: diverse sickened orchestra pit sound barrier

He's undoubtedly top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Haunting ruddy deer antler

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: diverse sickened orchestra pit sound barrier

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: diverse sickened orchestra pit sound barrier

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

all 3 above above ryan?



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: Crimson lodge

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: Haunting ruddy deer antler

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

he's def most high iq though, no?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: Haunting ruddy deer antler

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Haunting ruddy deer antler

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: drunken spectacular filthpig

he's appropriately rated

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: swollen round eye

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: bat shit crazy hideous step-uncle's house masturbator



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: costumed private investor stead

Pedro was better (than anyone).

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: drunken spectacular filthpig



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: stubborn know-it-all selfie



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: Salmon alpha

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Hairraiser principal's office

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: Boyish tank bawdyhouse

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: Disturbing cerebral ticket booth



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: bat shit crazy hideous step-uncle's house masturbator

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Boyish tank bawdyhouse

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: bat shit crazy hideous step-uncle's house masturbator

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

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