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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:22 AM Author: cannon https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-451_7m58.pdf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788170) |
Date: June 28th, 2024 10:23 AM Author: NPC ThingDoer Poontang great poast / moniker synergy your honor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788173) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:24 AM Author: ruinous phenotype (🦆) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788174) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:31 AM Author: dont run chaebong hyung the machine sees thru u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788210) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:32 AM Author: Just asking questions wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788214) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:32 AM Author: Hitler Did Nothing Wrong 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788217) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:34 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe disgraceful! cons pissing in the punch bowl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788231) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:34 AM Author: animeboi (.) fuck and I bought 100 shares last month. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788236) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:42 PM Author: ,.,,,. I should really follow u as something I shouldn't use as advice. I remember I lost a few k on mpw learned a valuable lesson on that. Now need to make a turnaround. I made some poor investments by buying a piedaterre and sbux and mcd. If I just bought and held tqqq and soxl... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788907) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:36 AM Author: Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv holy moly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788247) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:41 AM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,..................... Was it anticipated that SCOTUS would do this?
Double edged sword imo- with Trump almost certain to win. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:49 AM Author: ,.,,.,..,..,..,.,..,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,.,..,. What exactly do you think the RVs and plane trips were for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788309) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:58 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (oppose bitch bois) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789001) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:42 AM Author: lysergic chad (Bobby Fischer Did Nothing Wrong) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788271) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:44 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, damn, between this and the ruling against the SEC's internal courts, this SCOTUS is getting the job done!
i'm still pissed about the first amendment decision though. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:46 AM Author: Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv the death of the administrative state will only create more chaos, confusion, and anarchy in the USA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788291) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:00 AM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. here in Salzburg, we don't think that's the case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788357) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv Austria is smaller than the state of Maine- no regs are needed, just a handshake and good faith among conflicting interests (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788374) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:52 AM Author: certain dog (gunneratttt) without actually using or threatening state power i don't see how the gubmint can violate the 1st by asking social media ghouls to do anything.
this isn't a legal issue, it's a political issue. we shouldn't allow our institutions and governments to be so tightly aligned. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:54 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but a guy who was screwed by that process has no standing to claim that the govt pressured the media platform? he can't even claim that in court and try to convince a judge or jury? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788334) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:58 AM Author: certain dog (gunneratttt) standing has always been bullshit that trot out whenever they do or don't want to get to the merits. mohela was fucking retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788349) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:01 AM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. cr. And the Founding Fathers didn't have standing to write the Declaration of Independence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788361) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:53 PM Author: sex with females makes you weak and pliable Even a polite "request" to a company from a federal agency / executive branch induces THE FEAR in the company. They will generally feel coerced into doing what the feds want regardless of how "polite" the "request" was, regardless of the intent, and regardless of whether the feds have any teeth in the matter.
In practice 99.99% of the time companies just do whatever the feds ask. The remaining 0.01% is only with F500 companies who have serious lobbying power, etc. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:21 PM Author: Kenneth Play ( ) cr first amendment case was bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791155) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:45 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) After determining that a case satisfies the various preconditions we have set for Chevron to apply, a reviewing court must first assess “whether Congress has directly spoken to the precise question at issue.” Id., at 842. If, and only if, congressional intent is “clear,” that is the end of the inquiry. Ibid. But if the court determines that “the statute is silent or ambiguous with respect to the specific issue” at hand, the court must, at Chevron’s second step, defer to the agency’s interpretation if it “is based on a permissible construction of the statute.” Id., at 843. The reviewing courts in each of the cases before us applied Chevron’s framework to resolve in favor of the Government challenges to the same agency rule. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788286) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: UhOh environmental law is full of silent and ambiguous provisions. EPA is going to get sued into paralysis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788330) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:56 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the US Senate will be pressured to finally play its role. which is a good thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788343) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:57 AM Author: UhOh agree but it's going to be a very messy transition. i think the whole genesis of chevron and admin law in general is that there aren't anywhere near enough legislators to knowledgeably regulate everything, nor judges to hear it all. so either we suddenly get very serious about legislation and the courts or we just give up on regulation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788345) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:00 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) It's 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788356) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat "so either we suddenly get very serious about legislation and the courts"
wow the judicial and legislative branches will have to "get serious" ? that IS terrible news |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:09 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) We may have to begin electing politicians who reflect our views and not social media cartoon creatures playing pretend in the culture war. What a horrendous outcome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788406) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:20 AM Author: This actually helps, and here's why (High Constitutional Moment) Problem is we've never been given the option and it's not going to start now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788484) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:20 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) Looks like we now have the option (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788487) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:22 AM Author: UhOh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788491) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:07 PM Author: Indian applicant using GRE essay to hate blacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789388) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:28 PM Author: ...,....,,........ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789492) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:59 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788354) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:02 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe there's 3 trillion regulations and the goobers in the US Congress can barely agree on what to name a military base. I think in the end the courts will have no choice but to craft a subtle chevron-like test (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788369) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:04 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) Instead of being ruled by petty tyrants in the deep state we can now be ruled by petty tyrant Article III judges. God bless America. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788376) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:05 AM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat the sitzpissers literally cannot conceive of a society that is ruled by anyone other than petty bureaucrats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788385) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:10 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) This is because people like LTM see no human dignity in their fellow man and will always have an intense urge to guide them like the ruling elites he fancies himself as. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788414) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:25 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe You can't have a modern economy without a sizeable administrative state. It's been true everywhere in the world. A society that provides, is a society that protects human dignity. Your 19th century notions of governance are unrealistic and do not preserve human dignity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788509) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:33 AM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat this case does not reduce the size of the administrative state as you well know. it simply reinstates the judiciary as the appropriate arbiter of what the meaning of the law is (eg Marbury v Madison) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788553) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:47 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788621) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:51 AM Author: UhOh the judiciary does not have nearly enough resources to handle all the appeals. chevron was an enormous deterrence. this will completely gum up the machinery, which i guess was the point to force a new approach. but it's very simple - either the agencies handle it all, or the lege and courts handle it all. i don't have any faith in the lege and the courts are treated like an ugly step-child. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788640) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:09 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) It's not going to be as big a deal as people think. The courts are just going to side with the executive more often than not and only in some edge case where the government was objectively wrong will they overturn anything. Congress will never do anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788739) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: dont run chaebong hyung the machine sees thru u not in terms of visible action like a wave of benchslaps or something, but it should still shape agency actions and curb excess in significant ways not a govmo but id think agencies have limited resources like everyone else, so their risk calculation has to account for both emboldened deep pockets due to material change in chances of success for even non-marquee SCOTUS-worthy actions (depending on venue) and resulting deterrent effect of potential to lock up agency resources in litigation while facing materially worse chances of success |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:49 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) Cr. I agree and it's a good thing. It's just not a moral panic like LTM thinks. Man that guy really does pee sitting down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788941) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:53 PM Author: The Home Despot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789594) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:25 PM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat the courts are handling the same # of cases either way. the only question is whether they defer to the agency and throw their hands up, or actually use their constitutional prerogative to interpret the law.
does this case overturn Skidmore? I assume not. if the court things the agency got it right, they can still agree with the agency on skidmore grounds. so what is the big deal? |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:08 PM Author: UhOh the fact that they deferred to the agency discouraged a ton of appeals. that's the real reason it was done - the courts realized they didn't have the ability to handle all that shit, so they deferred to the agency as long as the interpretation was reasonable, i.e. "don't bother appealing unless the agency interpretation is completely unreasonable." that deterrence is gone now. there are usually several reasonable interpretations of an ambiguous law and the courts just invited everyone to present them.
agree with the guy above that the agencies have to pull back here too because they nor DOJ have unlimited resources to fight all these appeals. they will probably shy away from taking actions based on any statute that isn't crystal clear. which sounds great, but we all know how common ambiguous laws are. the agencies are going to tell the white house we can't do x without clear authorization, the white house will try and get it passed, and congress will be completely fucking useless as always and nothing will get done. which is fine i guess if you don't like safe air travel, food and drugs, waste disposal, etc. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:34 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) I really can't stand the people who bring up shit like safe air travel and salmonella in the lettuce as reasons for the Deep State to rule our lives. This is exactly like the unfunny lib parody in the NYT where they interviewed some low level regulators and said see this is the shadowy deep state the right is always complaining about!
No one wants unsafe air travel or e coli outbreaks. It's not about that. No one is saying the executive branch has no authority to regulate anything. That would be absurd. We just want some form of recourse if the EPA says no one can build houses here because some obscure butterfly species is threatened and therefore you must never access affordable property and live in a dilapidated hovel forever goy that you have some amount of recourse now. If you don't see why this is a good thing you're insane. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 3:01 PM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,..................... I can guarantee you that regulatory and judicial laziness will decide this issue in the long run. Fewer regulations will be made and courts will still defer to them out of laziness, not wanting to encourage appeals.
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:49 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) It's unrealistic to go back to the 19th century. It's also unrealistic to have a bunch of bureaucrats make decisions for everyone without the oversight of Congress and the judiciary. This is a simple check and balance mate by the judiciary and legislature on the executive. The world is not about to end so calm down you fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788628) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:50 PM Author: certain dog (gunneratttt) you just don't "get" how there is no alternative to being governed by an unelected, unimpeachable, capricious bureaucracy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788952) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:29 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) It seems insane but there are probably some people who like living in North Korea. There's gotta be some people who are like life is pretty great here. Kim is the best. I appreciate every day. The government really knows what to do.
What's disturbing about LTM is he fancies himself one of the ruling elites in an oppressive regime. He would get off on being a dictator. Because he feels in his bones he knows better than other people.
The whole point of America is to not have LTM types bossing everybody around. While some people opt into the mind prison most people want to be left alone. This is a win for government leaving people alone. Make America Great Again. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:35 PM Author: certain dog (gunneratttt) we call them libs. and someone they have no cognitive dissonance in wanting to "preserve democracy" but also transfer all power to unelected bureaucrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789248) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:37 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) "Abortion should never be between a woman and the state, but we need to bring back Rowe so abortion can be between a woman and the state." - Joseph R Biden Jr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789260) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:57 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe Why don't you and that disingenuous balding bachelor you're responding to get a room. Responding to each other's posts like some giggling schoolgirls. "ohh you're so right about the LIBS!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789353) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:23 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) We are right and you seem extremely butt hurt. You normally prattle on pompously from your Olympian view. This gets to you. It's been a bad week for you homie sorry not sorry. DJT victory eminent, deep state is carved out. What are you going to do about it? Oh right nothing because elections have consequences faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789459) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:24 PM Author: certain dog (gunneratttt) LTM sperging is a good barometer for lib's chances. when he gets MAF you know it's not looking good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789472) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:28 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) He's really gone full sitzpinkler today.
Hopefully there are many more lib meltdowns to come. This is just the beginning of their delicious tears. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:35 AM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,..................... Won't Congress just make wholesale enactments of a ton of regulations that are more or less non-controversial? Seems to me that laziness will dictate they do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788561) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:39 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) Congress is totally gummed up though by MAGA and a lesser extent the Squad although they are increasingly ineffective. It's tough for things to get done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789278) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:23 PM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,..................... Big business needs legal certainty, and there are a lot of regulations that they weren't necessarily fans of originally but have gotten used to, trained their people to deal with etc. I would be surprised if a lot of them didn't just tell their Republican Congressmen to adopt the current regulations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789460) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:24 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) Have some faith things are getting better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789470) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:49 AM Author: ,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,....,.,.,.,.,. hehe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788632) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:51 AM Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;.., 180 but where else is benzo going to guzzle gas? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788315) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:01 AM Author: Judas Jones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788360) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:02 AM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat adrian vermeule on suicide watch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788368) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:53 AM Author: Live Free or Die. i thought this was a flame thread. this is the biggest ruling of the year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47788654) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:11 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cr.
one of the biggest of the last 25 years. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 9:13 PM Author: The Yankee Boogle (Don?t Google) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47790811) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:02 PM Author: libclubber (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789368) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:36 PM Author: Nazca Redlines There were 89,000 federal regs issued from 1995-2016, compared with about 4,300 federal laws.
This is going to lead to a lot of Hawaii judges issuing conflicting opinions about what the law really "means." Maybe that's nbd. We live with circuit splits, etc. in lots of other areas. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 12:40 PM Author: waldo peckers that SEC case might have fucked up my practice. i'm a traditional labor lawyer, and the NLRB prosecutes its own cases where employers are accused of unfair labor practices. i haven't read the decision yet, but i think their ALJs might be no more, and the agency is gonna have to file suit in district court to enforce the law, which it doesn't really have the resources to do, lol.
i was planning on doing this another 10 years, but that might be 5 at this point. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:17 PM Author: UhOh ALJs will still exist. in most cases you can't appeal until there is a final agency action and ALJs come before the final action. but agencies will be reluctant to take enforcement actions unless the violation is based on clear statutory authority. they won't be able to interpret ambiguous provisions to further their policy goals as freely as they have. they will also have to think "is it worth getting sued for this?"
the big agencies will also have problems with different interpretations in different circuits. if they significantly modify their actions based on which circuit they're in, i think there's a good argument that they're being arbitrary and capricious. so they're going to have to bend to the most strict circuit unless SCOTUS wants to spend all of its time on admin law cases. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:26 PM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat Are NLRB enforcement actions /ulps under the common law per the 7th amendment? I doubt it. No doubt they will be challenged but I cant see the scotus requiring a jury trial in a unionizing case.
That's completely different from an sec fraud enforcement which is clearly derived from a pre existing common law crime. |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:40 PM Author: waldo peckers i think this is right - ULPs do not appear to be covered. NLRB ALJs breathing a collective sigh of relief today. as well as myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789544) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:00 PM Author: Indian applicant using GRE essay to hate blacks Cliffs notes? I'm a gay retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789011) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:11 PM Author: waldo peckers conservahero judges no longer have to give deference to decisions/interpretations of ambiguous statutes issued by ultra shitlib agency folk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789081) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:39 PM Author: sealclubber Chevron is overruled. Courts must exercise their independent judgment in deciding whether an agency has acted within its statutory authority, as the APA requires. Careful attention to the judgment of the Executive Branch may help inform that inquiry. And when a particular statute delegates authority to an agency consistent with constitutional limits, courts must respect the delegation, while ensuring that the agency acts within it. But courts need not and under the APA may not defer to an agency interpretation of the law simply because a statute is ambiguous. Because the D. C. and First Circuits relied on Chevron in deciding whether to uphold the Rule, their judgments are vacated, and the cases are remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:51 PM Author: Just asking questions bees are no longer fish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789330) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:05 PM Author: fulano thugs in black dresses now tell subject matter experts what the law means in a huge boon to roberts; former law firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789378) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:07 PM Author: Indian applicant using GRE essay to hate blacks characteristically gay response (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789391) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:13 PM Author: sealclubber believe all subject matter experts! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789408) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:33 PM Author: fulano lol sealclubber endorsement is just going to make HA and gunner and all the others rethink their position. (this is the characteristically gay response btw) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:37 PM Author: certain dog (gunneratttt) i think this will lead to worse regulation. or at least a lot of uncertainty. but i'm for it on principle. the law being crafted by unelected bureaucrats is inherently undemocratic and unamerican. plus congress will remain deadlocked until they are forced to change. hopefully. but regardless, i'm not willing to give up democracy because it's leads to "better results" in the short term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789530) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:45 PM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) Mfcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789565) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 5:06 PM Author: fulano there is a notice and review period for admin regulations which seems to me more democratically representative than how laws get passed. obviously congress is more than happy to kick the bucket to not have to deal with any aftermath of any decision, and that's great considering they are all in the pockets of israel. i really dont need food and drug regulations or telecom regulations based on whats in israels best interest, not that anything will ever be passed anywyay, which i suppose is the real goal here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47790129) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 8:42 PM Author: The Yankee Boogle (Don?t Google) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47790721) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 3:02 PM Author: sealclubber the characteristically gay response is making fun of your stupid response? okay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789654) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 4:43 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, thugs in black robes who hate democracy have ruled that agencies can no longer argue "who cares what Congress said, just let our behavior slide and do."
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Date: June 28th, 2024 1:35 PM Author: Cokehead criminal Carrying a Colt Cobra (SSPX Masterman) Ding dong! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789251) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:25 PM Author: The Yankee Boogle (Don?t Google) TL;DR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789476) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 2:49 PM Author: The Home Despot Ragu falling from heaven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47789577) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 4:49 PM Author: As far as they will go but even farther (🧐) scalia was in favor of chevron and opposed it because he feared overturning it would give courts too much power (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47790072) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 10:44 PM Author: ,,,...,,......,,....,,,,,,,,....... I got a B- in a cls seminar for saying basically what scotus said on this. lol. Should email the lib lame prof (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791043) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:27 PM Author: fourth of july (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791166) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:48 PM Author: CapTTTainFalcon were you visiting from cuny law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791223) |
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Date: June 28th, 2024 11:27 PM Author: hank_scorpio getting down to brass tacks, aren't courts still going to just defer unless there is some glaring reason not to? The lack of a particular deference standard still means you just need to think they are being reasonable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791167) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 12:18 AM Author: sealclubber this is probably what should happen, but who knows what happens these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791290) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 12:18 AM Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK It's been dead for years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791289) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 8:38 AM Author: Scott Brownian Motion Not going to go point-by-point through this thread, but some retards seems to be saying that it's either a federal deep state or an aggressive judiciary, nothing else.
Needless to say, that is retarded. If the deep state doesn't have a law to point to, it's not the federal judiciary's responsibility to figure it out.
Congress can pass laws or the states can take care of it. You have armed FDA agents rolling up on Amish farmers selling raw milk. It's long overdue to kill the deep state and let individual states regulate themselves.
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:12 AM Author: dont run chaebong hyung the machine sees thru u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791682) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:24 AM Author: Trump is the Lib Killer (TDNW) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791704) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:28 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) Sir, this is a Wendy's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791712) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:28 AM Author: Myraiad, Genuine Reasons for Mother Hating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791713) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:25 AM Author: Trump is the Lib Killer (TDNW) 47301026101036 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791706) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:29 AM Author: Myraiad, Genuine Reasons for Mother Hating Giving authority back to the individual states may be this court’s greatest legacy.
Its the solution to many of our problems. Let the states be laboratories of democracy again. Those with the most compelling system will attract the best talent. |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:30 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791719) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:32 AM Author: Trump is the Lib Killer (TDNW) *libs slamming their pocket constitution against the wall* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791721) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:36 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe I can assure you I do not carry a pocket constitution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791729) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:38 AM Author: Days of Our Declining Empire (retired) He's absolutely right TDNW libs hate America and never fly the flag or refer to the Constitution which Breyer said is just a suggestion anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791735) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:52 AM Author: Trump is the Lib Killer (TDNW) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791768) |
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Date: June 29th, 2024 9:37 AM Author: dont run chaebong hyung the machine sees thru u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2...id#47791732) |