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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?
| Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake | 04/05/26 |
| milky beady-eyed internal respiration | 04/05/26 |
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| shaky abnormal parlour double fault | 04/05/26 |
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| milky beady-eyed internal respiration | 04/05/26 |
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| Racist Redneck from Alabama | 06/04/26 |
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| Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake | 04/05/26 |
| Marvelous chartreuse abode preventive strike | 04/06/26 |
| drab ticket booth | 04/05/26 |
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| Big Property | 04/07/26 |
| diverse transparent forum turdskin | 04/05/26 |
| the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) | 06/04/26 |
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| Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake | 04/06/26 |
| Marvelous chartreuse abode preventive strike | 04/06/26 |
| provocative ocher idea he suggested dilemma | 04/06/26 |
| Marvelous chartreuse abode preventive strike | 04/07/26 |
| the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) | 06/04/26 |
| The depth of human depravity is boundless. | 06/04/26 |
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| tokens in abundance | 06/04/26 |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796394) |
Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM Author: milky beady-eyed internal respiration Underrated by whom? He’s revered (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796396) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake how does he rank all time, is he a top 3? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796397) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM Author: shaky abnormal parlour double fault He's undoubtedly top 3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796399) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake Nolan Ryan?
Randy Johnson? |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM Author: milky beady-eyed internal respiration Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796411) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796419) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM Author: shaky abnormal parlour double fault Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Johnson Martinez |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake cr
but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3 |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM Author: shaky abnormal parlour double fault Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796436) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake all 3 above above ryan?
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM Author: fishy friendly grandma pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796451) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:28 AM Author: Judas Jones Clemens had the best career of anyone in that era if we ignore PEDs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49914410) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM Author: milky beady-eyed internal respiration Hard to say but he’s up there for sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796401) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake he's def most high iq though, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796407) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM Author: milky beady-eyed internal respiration Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796409) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake the latter obv
i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM Author: milky beady-eyed internal respiration Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796417) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796421) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 1:01 AM Author: Racist Redneck from Alabama (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49914293) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM Author: disgusting dashing theater he's appropriately rated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796444) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM Author: Pungent piazza lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796446) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796448) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM Author: Marvelous chartreuse abode preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49797805) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM Author: drab ticket booth Pedro was better (than anyone). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796514) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM Author: disgusting dashing theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796561) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM Author: Big Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49799608) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM Author: diverse transparent forum turdskin He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani
If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 6:42 AM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) Don't drop those BW3s Flamin' Dorito(TM) Hot wings on your crisp new steph curry jersey, cuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49914343) |
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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: Topaz frisky boistinker meetinghouse Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49796577) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM Author: provocative ocher idea he suggested dilemma he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49797104) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM Author: Mewling learning disabled immigrant corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49797818) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM Author: Marvelous chartreuse abode preventive strike He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49797984) |
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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: provocative ocher idea he suggested dilemma yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49798932) |
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM Author: Marvelous chartreuse abode preventive strike Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49799605) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 6:44 AM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.) Oh yeah that is the relevant metric when discussing GOAT vs. mere HOF mlb pitching, thanks chung li. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49914344) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:17 AM Author: The depth of human depravity is boundless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49914271) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:31 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, do not google.
there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or greater. name them. |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:36 AM Author: The depth of human depravity is boundless. Randy Johnson
Clemmons
Pedro
Ryan
Glavine
Babe Ruth
Scherzer
Seaver
cy Young
Maddux
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:43 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, this career WAR. you got these right.
1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R 3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R 7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R 8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R 9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L
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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:57 AM Author: tokens in abundance Subject: No Goog Clayton Kershaw
Curt Schilling
Mariano Rivera
Bob Gibson |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:33 AM Author: Judas Jones Rivera would have had to pitch for ~40 years to get 100 WAR. Relievers just don't get enough innings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49914413) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:34 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cr. he's in 80th place for career WAR. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853955&forum_id=2...id#49914415) |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:10 AM Author: &c Walter Johnson Christy Mathewson Steve Carlton |
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Date: June 4th, 2026 8:33 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Rank Player (yrs, age) WAR for Pitchers IP Throws 1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R 2. Walter Johnson+ (21) 155.4 5914.1 R 3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R 4. Kid Nichols+ (15) 119.0 5067.1 R 5. Grover Alexander+ (20) 116.9 5190.0 R 6. Lefty Grove+ (17) 113.2 3940.2 L 7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R 8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R 9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L 10. Christy Mathewson+ (17) 100.6 4788.2 R 11. Phil Niekro+ (24) 97.0 5404.0 R |