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Director of National Intelligence James "Cheek" Clapper
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Date: November 9th, 2012 7:49 PM Author: high-end mewling toilet seat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#22010071) |
Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:43 PM Author: Indigo Underhanded Indian Lodge the CIA just released an internal review of Clapper's rushed 2016 assessment that Putin was working to get Trump elected. in polite words and soft phrases, it says the review was a political hit job on Trump.
https://www.cia.gov/static/Tradecraft-Review-2016-ICA-on-Election-Interference-062625.pdf |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 9:55 AM Author: Zippy boiling water home no doubt that it was. i also think trump is unduly influenced by putin, and there's a lot of evidence in the spook record both received and inferred suggesting as much. the two can both be true simultaneously; the globalization of the late 80s and 90s has wreaked havoc on both parties' sense of "national integrity" imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068620) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 9:59 AM Author: mustard boyish roommate the fact that TRUMP understands that it is in the U.S.'s manifest national interest (and that of the whole of Western civiilization) to get along with Russia and to *NOT* have an alliance form between Russia and China (all of which is completely, urgently, vitally true) is not remotely the same as TRUMP being "unduly influenced" by Putin, even if deep staters and their media mouthpieces desperately want you to think it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068634) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 10:04 AM Author: Zippy boiling water home no, there's some convincing evidence in "positioning" from russian state security mouthpieces showing that he's had ties and has been being groomed by russian proxies for some time. is this a big deal? in 202x? i have no idea, increasingly naked foreign influences are everywhere in DC, but it does make one a bit uncomfortable, especially considering his stances on NATO and the EU. re russia i agree with this and promoted this for a good while but the CIA jumped the gun in ukraine and now there's no small deal of bad blood between a thrice-betrayed putin and the US. the best strategy there was to just let them sleep into socio-economic stagnation and oblivion. now? russia is on guard and will be both re-arming and looking at the US with much less amiability than they were before. good for people long on defense stocks i guess re china and russian relations it appears to be up in the air now. russia is in a much less secure position due to the ukraine conflict than they were before, and if china decides to put pressure on russia then it's possible they could start courting better relations with the US. i think one of russia's geostrategic medium-long goals is to damage EU-US relations and move in as a senior partner in Europe (a natural and long desired position for Russia, even before the Soviet) and try to politically align Eurasia against both the US and China---and this is something that trump's administration seems to be playing into, atm. the last point should be underlined for emphasis---if i was playing "Diplomacy 2025" in russia's position it's what i'd do. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 9:30 AM Author: Indigo Underhanded Indian Lodge this new report is being touted by cons as proof that the CIA joined forces with Dems to destroy Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068565) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 9:36 AM Author: mustard boyish roommate shouldn't it be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068576) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 9:52 AM Author: Indigo Underhanded Indian Lodge i had already assumed that this was proven. it's nice to see more detail. i also assume that in a decade or so when the issue won't have much current political impact it will be widely taken for granted that the IC, media, and Team Obama sought to undermine and even eliminate a lawful POTUS.
this article is typical of coverage by non-lib media:
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/07/02/bombshell-cia-report-exposes-how-obamas-team-framed-trump-n4941393#google_vignette |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 9:57 AM Author: burgundy adventurous stain den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068625) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 9:57 AM Author: Marvelous Khaki Location Famous Landscape Painting This guy is still treated as a respected truth teller by media outlets across America. Remember that the next time you're tempted to believe anything you read or see on television. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068626) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 10:06 AM Author: Indigo Underhanded Indian Lodge Clapper straight up lied to Congress, in a public hearing, got caught, and as you say still somehow is trotted out as a person to be trusted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068656) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 10:11 AM Author: Zippy boiling water home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068669) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 10:13 AM Author: Indigo Underhanded Indian Lodge this also explains that bizarre meeting among Obama, Comey, Yates, and Rice (and others?) just hours before Trump was to be inaugurated. Rice dashed off an email to herself confirming that Obama wanted everything to proceed "by the book." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068674) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 10:35 AM Author: mustard boyish roommate cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49068730) |
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Date: July 4th, 2025 12:21 PM Author: Indigo Underhanded Indian Lodge Obama orders the assessment in December 2016 and it was so rushed that they didn't follow normal protocols. Brennan and Comey and Clapper got directly involved in processes that are supposed to be done by the lower levels. IC people didn't want the assessment to even mention the thoroughly discredited Steele Dossier but Brennan kept overruling them and insisting that it be included.
the conclusion was leaked to the press a week before it's finalized and then it was used to get the Mueller bullshit going. on the eve of the inauguration Obama has the meeting and insists that the ensuing attack on Trump be done "by the book."
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“This was Obama, Comey, Clapper and Brennan deciding ‘We’re going to screw Trump,’” said Ratcliffe in an exclusive interview.
“It was, ‘We’re going to create this and put the imprimatur of an IC assessment in a way that nobody can question it.’ They stamped it as Russian collusion and then classified it so nobody could see it.
“This led to Mueller [special counsel Robert Mueller’s inquiry, which concluded after two years that there was no Trump-Russia collusion]. It put the seal of approval of the intelligence community that Russia was helping Trump and that the Steele dossier was the scandal of our lifetime. It ate up the first two years of his [Trump’s first] presidency.
“You see how Brennan and Clapper and Comey manipulated [and] silenced all the career professionals and railroaded the process.”
https://nypost.com/2025/07/02/us-news/obamas-trump-russia-collusion-report-was-corrupt-from-start-cia-review |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Indigo Underhanded Indian Lodge fuck, news reports say that criminal investigations are being opened about Comey and Brennan. we knew that Comey violated the law and that both lied. but i assume no indictments will come out of this latest news.
https://nypost.com/2025/07/08/us-news/fbi-launches-criminal-investigations-of-john-brennan-james-comey-over-trump-russia-probe/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social |
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Date: July 9th, 2025 2:02 PM Author: Marvelous Khaki Location Famous Landscape Painting Nothing ever happens to these guys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2109650&forum_id=2...id#49086784) |