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why do people think logic games is so improvable?

this doesnt really make sense. there's nothing esoter...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
the diagramming, being a retard who doesn't instinctively ge...
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
...
Maniacal library kitty cat
  03/08/12
also you get much better at them just by doing around 20-30
Maniacal library kitty cat
  03/08/12
wouldnt you naturally diagram if it seemed necessary?
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
I don't know, there are different ways to diagram, and you m...
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6
Cerise internet-worthy cuckold pistol
  03/08/12
STFU doobs
Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university
  03/08/12
doobs would murder everyone on this chatblog if he could hav...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
what did you get breh? what kind of score would you guarante...
Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university
  03/08/12
should i do this? im not a law student and not looking ...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
breh you didn't answer like any of my questions. the issue ...
Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university
  03/08/12
would they really breh? im not a lawyer so i dont know
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
you'd catch a felony charge and the feds might get involved ...
Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university
  03/08/12
jesus, breh. id probably charge at least 25k in that ca...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
too much money. no one's paying you $25k because you got a 1...
Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university
  03/08/12
fuck. i dont want to go to jail, though.
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
probably shouldn't take the SAT for bros then. although like...
Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university
  03/08/12
because there's only 4 or 5 common setups - people who origi...
honey-headed mad-dog skullcap headpube
  03/08/12
but if youre dumb enough to really suck at it then i think t...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
not to a lot of reasonably bright ppl, actually
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
because you learn the few techniques and frameworks necessar...
Insane trailer park
  03/08/12
wheres the "technique" or "framework" th...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
unless you automatically know how to efficiently symbolicall...
Insane trailer park
  03/08/12
havent these people been doing symbolic representation/manip...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
i had very little experience with it the first time i'd ever...
Insane trailer park
  03/08/12
because once you learn to ignore all the stuff about "a...
Crystalline Marvelous People Who Are Hurt
  03/08/12
what requires a book/class/tutor to teach you this shit?
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
lacking a logical cast of mind
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
in which case youre fucked anyway, right? im not doubti...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
nope, not fucked anyway. we can only repeat the same cycle o...
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
but theres no evidence im wrong. the lsats are pretty s...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
you know that raw scores haven't improved/that the test hasn...
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
no, i havent seen evidence of this.
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
all the evidence indicates ur wrong u dumbshit.
supple coiffed range coffee pot
  03/08/12
i don't think you need a book or a class necessarily, just s...
Crystalline Marvelous People Who Are Hurt
  03/08/12
because shit tons of people improve on it by reading the LG ...
flickering exhilarant halford newt
  03/08/12
i guess this is what i kind of doubt
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
it's a fact though
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
im guessing the lsac doesnt admit this.
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
yeah I imagine they don't advertise it
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
do you think everyone on TLS is gaining 10+ points by placeb...
flickering exhilarant halford newt
  03/08/12
i dont think people are gaining a ton of points. otherwise t...
fragrant talking shrine
  03/08/12
lol every1 is just lieing faggot.
supple coiffed range coffee pot
  03/08/12
i don't think it's as easy to improve as some people say.
Crystalline Marvelous People Who Are Hurt
  03/08/12
I think some ppl find it easy and others find it hard
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
yes
Crystalline Marvelous People Who Are Hurt
  03/08/12
The average LSAT taker has never heard of TLS or LG Bible. I...
flickering exhilarant halford newt
  03/08/12
...
Racy Blood Rage
  03/08/12
def. worth it to work on games now, in 2026, FOR SURE
nyuug
  02/19/26
dumbing down tests is superior anglo culture bro
nyuug
  02/23/26
What law school did you go to, big guy?
Norwoody Allen
  02/23/26
u seem pretty mad@ america dumbing down literally every stan...
nyuug
  02/23/26
Nonresponsive, champ
Norwoody Allen
  02/23/26


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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

this doesnt really make sense.

there's nothing esoteric about a logic game. the only difficulty is the time limit. what techniques are supposed to improve this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20159725)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

the diagramming, being a retard who doesn't instinctively get what a contrapositive is and learning it from an lsat logic games "bible"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20159728)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:19 PM
Author: Maniacal library kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20159743)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Maniacal library kitty cat

also you get much better at them just by doing around 20-30

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20159746)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:22 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

wouldnt you naturally diagram if it seemed necessary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160373)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

I don't know, there are different ways to diagram, and you might not realize that diagramming's more efficient. I actually didn't diagram, just got one wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160388)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: Cerise internet-worthy cuckold pistol

http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20159729)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university

STFU doobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20159753)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

doobs would murder everyone on this chatblog if he could have me take the lsat for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160380)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:24 PM
Author: Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university

what did you get breh? what kind of score would you guarantee? it would be awesome as fukkkk if i could take the LSAT for people. i think i could get $5,000 per administration if there was a good way to hook up with clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160398)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

should i do this?

im not a law student and not looking to ever be admitted to the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160425)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university

breh you didn't answer like any of my questions. the issue isn't really whether you can get admitted to a bar, but whether they will throw your ass in motherfucking jail if you get caught.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160443)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

would they really breh? im not a lawyer so i dont know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160449)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university

you'd catch a felony charge and the feds might get involved if you were crossing state lines to do it. i'd say there's a good chance they do give you some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160460)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

jesus, breh.

id probably charge at least 25k in that case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160484)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:33 PM
Author: Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university

too much money. no one's paying you $25k because you got a 172.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160509)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:35 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

fuck.

i dont want to go to jail, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160538)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:37 PM
Author: Buck-toothed swashbuckling personal credit line university

probably shouldn't take the SAT for bros then. although likelihood of getting caught would be low if you did it just a couple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160556)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: honey-headed mad-dog skullcap headpube

because there's only 4 or 5 common setups - people who originally sucked at the section can generally learn these setups, how to deal with them, and profit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160389)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

but if youre dumb enough to really suck at it then i think the time limit would fuck you anyway.

its not like theres a linear algebra section on the lsat. i can see why studying would make a big difference there, but logic games are pretty intuitive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160413)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

not to a lot of reasonably bright ppl, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160430)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: Insane trailer park

because you learn the few techniques and frameworks necessary to solve all logic games and practice applying them quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160416)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

wheres the "technique" or "framework" thats not really obvious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160433)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: Insane trailer park

unless you automatically know how to efficiently symbolically represent the games on paper and manipulate those symbols towards the correct solution without going down a wrong path, practice is the only way you'll learn to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160468)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

havent these people been doing symbolic representation/manipulation/computation since 6th grade?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160505)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Insane trailer park

i had very little experience with it the first time i'd ever seen it and i have a reasonably strong math background. my scores on games the first few times i tried them were abysmal. after practice and seeing some hints and techniques for attacking them, my scores were nearly perfect.

i think the real problem is that games require a minimal level of reading comprehension and mapping the ideas to symbols, then manipulating those symbols. this is different from writing essays or doing word problems in math. i guess it's closest to writing mathematical proofs but requires lower level but quicker logical reasoning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160572)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:26 PM
Author: Crystalline Marvelous People Who Are Hurt

because once you learn to ignore all the stuff about "apartment buildings" and "Radio Station Disc Jockeys", etc., the problems are easier to deal with in terms of logical relationships.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160431)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

what requires a book/class/tutor to teach you this shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160440)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

lacking a logical cast of mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160459)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

in which case youre fucked anyway, right?

im not doubting that techniques are useful to solve logic games. im doubting the kind of person who cant figure out these techniques on their own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160474)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

nope, not fucked anyway. we can only repeat the same cycle of you rephrasing your point 50 different ways and me/other ppl saying you're wrong so many times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160497)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:35 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

but theres no evidence im wrong.

the lsats are pretty similar. and people arent doing much better despite the increase in tutoring/practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160530)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

you know that raw scores haven't improved/that the test hasn't gotten harder over the past 15 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160550)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:42 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

no, i havent seen evidence of this.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160622)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: supple coiffed range coffee pot

all the evidence indicates ur wrong u dumbshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160567)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: Crystalline Marvelous People Who Are Hurt

i don't think you need a book or a class necessarily, just seeing the format of the problems ahead of time can help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160489)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: flickering exhilarant halford newt

because shit tons of people improve on it by reading the LG Bible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160439)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:27 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

i guess this is what i kind of doubt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160446)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:28 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

it's a fact though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160454)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

im guessing the lsac doesnt admit this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160462)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

yeah I imagine they don't advertise it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160472)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: flickering exhilarant halford newt

do you think everyone on TLS is gaining 10+ points by placebo effect or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160490)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: fragrant talking shrine

i dont think people are gaining a ton of points. otherwise the test wouldnt be breaking people over the curve so easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160520)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:36 PM
Author: supple coiffed range coffee pot

lol every1 is just lieing faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160547)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Crystalline Marvelous People Who Are Hurt

i don't think it's as easy to improve as some people say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160568)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage

I think some ppl find it easy and others find it hard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160576)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:39 PM
Author: Crystalline Marvelous People Who Are Hurt

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160588)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:40 PM
Author: flickering exhilarant halford newt

The average LSAT taker has never heard of TLS or LG Bible. I gained like 11 points from my diag, almost all of it on games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160596)



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Date: March 8th, 2012 11:41 PM
Author: Racy Blood Rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#20160600)



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Date: February 19th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: nyuug

def. worth it to work on games now, in 2026, FOR SURE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#49681283)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:34 PM
Author: nyuug

dumbing down tests is superior anglo culture bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#49690069)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:01 PM
Author: Norwoody Allen

What law school did you go to, big guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#49690119)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:26 PM
Author: nyuug

u seem pretty mad@ america dumbing down literally every standardized test bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#49690191)



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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Norwoody Allen

Nonresponsive, champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1893397&forum_id=2...id#49690340)