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Why hasn't somebody reported CSLG to CA bar for paying referral fees to docs

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  09/25/24
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,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...
  09/25/24
are chiropractors really doctors?
Judas Jones
  09/25/24
They can diagnose facet syndrome
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
were you the kid that reminded the teacher she forgot to ass...
rickpanama
  09/25/24
Starting to think you might be jewish
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
not following, so it's a jewish thing to beat the shit out o...
rickpanama
  09/25/24
(kike trash)
excellent poaster
  09/25/24
there was a (((hemophiliac))) kid in my 7th grade algebra cl...
Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard
  09/25/24
Why do you freak shows always trying to fuck with peoples IR...
Obeezy
  09/25/24
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Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard
  09/25/24
cslg has fuck you money, it wouldn't phase him in the slight...
,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...
  09/25/24
Why are loser jew midgets always nuthugging each other here
excellent poaster
  09/25/24
oh, now i get it, you think i'm ((())) because i made a comm...
rickpanama
  09/25/24
lol no you dumb faggot it’s because every single one o...
excellent poaster
  09/25/24
oh got it, you're a poor. carry on
rickpanama
  09/25/24
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Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard
  09/25/24
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  09/25/24
Because he’s never once said he’s done that
puff daddy
  09/25/24
cr negrobill wouldn’t do that
excellent poaster
  09/25/24
how does he keep his docs/chiros happy and loyal
,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...
  09/25/24
By giving them tons and tons of repeat business
puff daddy
  09/25/24
sounds like a quid pro quo, and that the referral fee is pai...
,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...
  09/25/24
so having a large client pool you can refer to doctors is pe...
,.,,,,....,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.
  09/25/24
Gift baskets (that include cash stapled to the bottom)
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Tbh it works the opposite way. Plaintiffs aren’t reall...
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how do the doctors get paid? why haven't medical insurance c...
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  09/25/24
He directs his patients not to use health insurance. And th...
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  09/25/24
Lying about the extent of injuries and providing unneeded tr...
pwnpwnpwn
  09/25/24
Why would they be lying though? It's soft tissue injury. T...
,.,..,...,..,..,,,,.,.,.,.,,.,
  09/25/24
They lie to get more referrals from CSLG moron. They do ...
pwnpwnpwn
  09/25/24
they're prob working on deferred fees and get paid out of th...
rickpanama
  09/25/24
Yes they have a “mechanics lien” on any judgment...
pwnpwnpwn
  09/25/24
Doctors take a lien in the settlement and get paid out at en...
,,,...,,......,,....,,,,,,,,.......
  09/25/24
is there some kind of third party that's responsible for mak...
,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...
  09/25/24
thats the job of your insurance company and its lawyers
puff daddy
  09/25/24
Everyone knows they’re inflated. It’s just reall...
,,,...,,......,,....,,,,,,,,.......
  09/25/24
Oh ok they're paid inflated non-arms-length rates on liens a...
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
The way to do it in California would be just to direct clien...
..,.,...,.,,,.,,.,,,.
  09/25/24
How is that in the best interests of Jose the undocumented c...
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
What?? The medical services are billed at a high rate--as ...
,.,..,...,..,..,,,,.,.,.,.,,.,
  09/25/24
Why is it in the best interests of the client to pay a bigge...
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
I dont understand, and again, it's not really a kickback. I...
,.,..,...,..,..,,,,.,.,.,.,,.,
  09/25/24
why is settlement is driven by extent of med bills? Don't de...
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
isn't the settlement ideally supposed to make you whole?
,.,,,,....,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.
  09/25/24
What are you on about, are you even a lolyer?
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
jose prob gets a bigger check based on his 'pain and sufferi...
rickpanama
  09/25/24
"This is the worst case of facet syndrome I have seen t...
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
The whole world is a scam trying to destroy us. Let ur broth...
just be racist
  09/25/24
Oh look another trash kike
excellent poaster
  09/25/24
Worst case scenario for CSLG is he gets to retire at age 40-...
"'''''"'''"""''''"
  09/25/24
He has to spend the rest of his life worrying about Dr. Simo...
Shlomo Circumstein
  09/25/24
doctors want business from lawyers, not vice versa. docto...
chandler (retired)
  09/25/24


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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:10 AM
Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129705)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:49 AM
Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129811)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:50 AM
Author: Judas Jones

are chiropractors really doctors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129814)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:00 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

They can diagnose facet syndrome

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129859)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:58 AM
Author: rickpanama

were you the kid that reminded the teacher she forgot to assign homework?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129845)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:00 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

Starting to think you might be jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129857)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:01 AM
Author: rickpanama

not following, so it's a jewish thing to beat the shit out of the teacher's pet? pretty sure that's more a sign of my blue-collar cath k-8/jesuit upbringing, my man :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129862)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:00 AM
Author: excellent poaster

(kike trash)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129858)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:02 AM
Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard

there was a (((hemophiliac))) kid in my 7th grade algebra class who I'd routinely outperform on exams. He'd always want to look at my exams to make sure the points were added correctly.

One time they weren't and he threw a hissy fit. The teacher told him to shut up and mind his own business.

Valuable lessons were learnt that day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129864)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:01 AM
Author: Obeezy

Why do you freak shows always trying to fuck with peoples IRL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129861)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:03 AM
Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129866)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:07 AM
Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...


cslg has fuck you money, it wouldn't phase him in the slightest to lose his license

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129882)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:08 AM
Author: excellent poaster

Why are loser jew midgets always nuthugging each other here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129888)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:28 AM
Author: rickpanama

oh, now i get it, you think i'm ((())) because i made a comment in defense of cslg. i'm not defending him, i'm criticizing fags like you that feel entitled to needlessly fuck with other people's lives because you're jealous they're more successful than you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129996)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:35 AM
Author: excellent poaster

lol no you dumb faggot it’s because every single one of your poasts reeks of being retarded kike trash

but yes if you think some autistic kike midget not being able to do predatory financial schemes with a bunch of underclass ethnics isn’t a net positive for society, you’re probably also kike trash

he *should* be fucked with because he is a pathetic loser

I’m sure you’d say the same thing about spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130030)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:59 AM
Author: rickpanama

oh got it, you're a poor. carry on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130144)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:44 AM
Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130085)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:38 AM
Author: ...,....,,........



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130048)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:08 AM
Author: puff daddy

Because he’s never once said he’s done that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129889)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: excellent poaster

cr negrobill wouldn’t do that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129891)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:09 AM
Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...


how does he keep his docs/chiros happy and loyal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129892)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:12 AM
Author: puff daddy

By giving them tons and tons of repeat business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129902)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:18 AM
Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...


sounds like a quid pro quo, and that the referral fee is paid in kind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129936)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:40 AM
Author: ,.,,,,....,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.


so having a large client pool you can refer to doctors is per se an ethics violation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130058)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:20 AM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....,,,,,,,,.......


Gift baskets (that include cash stapled to the bottom)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129943)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:38 AM
Author: ...,....,,........

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130050)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:22 AM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....,,,,,,,,.......


Tbh it works the opposite way. Plaintiffs aren’t really hurt and just go to lawyer first. And then the lawyer sends them to doctors to create damages. So it’s actually the doctors that want referrals from the PI attorneys. And they get the referrals by being willing to inflate damages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129948)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:26 AM
Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...


how do the doctors get paid? why haven't medical insurance companies caught on to this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129976)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:30 AM
Author: ,.,..,...,..,..,,,,.,.,.,.,,.,


He directs his patients not to use health insurance. And then the treating providers in his network bill at a really high rate, hold the bill in abeyance pending case resolution. Then get reimbursed a high percentage of the billed rate at the time of the settlement. Docs fare significantly better than they would have under insurance reimbursement rates, and everyone is happy. None of that violates any ethics rules that I can think of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130000)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:33 AM
Author: pwnpwnpwn

Lying about the extent of injuries and providing unneeded treatments is an ethical violation for the docs. And it’s a violation for CSLG to suborn this fraud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130017)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:35 AM
Author: ,.,..,...,..,..,,,,.,.,.,.,,.,


Why would they be lying though? It's soft tissue injury. The more movement and pain relief, the better the likelihood of full recovery.

And also there's no fraud for CSLG to suborn. Some docs just take a more aggressive approach than others, is how it would play out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130029)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 2:11 PM
Author: pwnpwnpwn

They lie to get more referrals from CSLG moron.

They do all sorts of unnecessary shit with no basis in science, like spinal injections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130916)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:30 AM
Author: rickpanama

they're prob working on deferred fees and get paid out of the settlement $

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130003)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:34 AM
Author: pwnpwnpwn

Yes they have a “mechanics lien” on any judgment for the work they do. They get paid 100% of their inflated bills which is a huge windfall compared to having to take mandatory insurance write offs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130024)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:59 AM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....,,,,,,,,.......


Doctors take a lien in the settlement and get paid out at end with the PI attorney. Of course it comes out of the plaintiffs share as costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130142)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 11:00 AM
Author: ,..,,......,....,,,,..,.,...


is there some kind of third party that's responsible for making sure damages aren't being inflated?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130148)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 11:07 AM
Author: puff daddy

thats the job of your insurance company and its lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130166)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 11:11 AM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....,,,,,,,,.......


Everyone knows they’re inflated. It’s just really hard/impossible to prove. The scam of medicine in US oddly facilitates the scam in law. This literally only happens in US. Doesn’t exist anywhere else in world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130188)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:13 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

Oh ok they're paid inflated non-arms-length rates on liens and regularly receive gifts of jewellery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129905)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:27 AM
Author: ..,.,...,.,,,.,,.,,,.

The way to do it in California would be just to direct clients not to use their health insurance at all, honor the highest possible billing rate in reimbursement after cases settle. That's all. And there's nothing wrong with that per se.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129980)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

How is that in the best interests of Jose the undocumented client

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48129998)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:31 AM
Author: ,.,..,...,..,..,,,,.,.,.,.,,.,


What?? The medical services are billed at a high rate--as high as you can get without shutting the whole thing down--and then the bills are held in abeyance pending case resolution. It doesnt matter whether the patient has health insurance or not under that scenario--if he does, he just doesn't use it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130005)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:32 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

Why is it in the best interests of the client to pay a bigger share of settlement % to the doc as a kickback

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130012)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:38 AM
Author: ,.,..,...,..,..,,,,.,.,.,.,,.,


I dont understand, and again, it's not really a kickback. If the liens are higher than if he went elsewhere for treatment, but the settlement (which is driven in part by the extent of medical bills) is also higher as a result, the client ends up putting *more* in his pocket than he would otherwise.

The amount of the bills to some extent drives the value of the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130045)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:56 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

why is settlement is driven by extent of med bills? Don't defendants just have their number

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130130)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:58 AM
Author: ,.,,,,....,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.


isn't the settlement ideally supposed to make you whole?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130141)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 11:51 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

What are you on about, are you even a lolyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130321)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:31 AM
Author: rickpanama

jose prob gets a bigger check based on his 'pain and suffering'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130008)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:32 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

"This is the worst case of facet syndrome I have seen today"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130013)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:36 AM
Author: just be racist

The whole world is a scam trying to destroy us. Let ur brother in poast do his thing. Haters always trying to pull everyone down in this kike casino.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130037)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:38 AM
Author: excellent poaster

Oh look another trash kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130046)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 11:03 AM
Author: "'''''"'''"""''''"

Worst case scenario for CSLG is he gets to retire at age 40-something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130156)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 11:52 AM
Author: Shlomo Circumstein

He has to spend the rest of his life worrying about Dr. Simonyan flipping on him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130323)



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Date: September 25th, 2024 11:55 AM
Author: chandler (retired)

doctors want business from lawyers, not vice versa.

doctors giving kickbacks to lawyers is a disbarring offense and actually prosecuted:

https://da.lacounty.gov/media/news/chiropractors-charged-25-million-auto-insurance-fraud-kickback-scheme



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601167&forum_id=2...id#48130333)