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"they're not under our jurisdiction. also they have to obey immigration laws."

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laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/08/26
I wonder if it would be relevant for this conundrum that the...
crawly volcanic crater space
  07/08/26
*evades non existent jurisdiction* (hegseth drunk driving ab...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/08/26
Speaking of being drunk, tell me again about this "non ...
crawly volcanic crater space
  07/08/26
"failing to detect" =/= "lacking jurisdiction...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/08/26
"failing to detect" isn't accurate. "Intenti...
crawly volcanic crater space
  07/09/26
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smoky irradiated potus
  07/09/26
oh ok so evading detection means there's a lack of jurisdict...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/09/26
Yes, you're an actual retard.
Fucking Fuckface
  08/05/26
yeah because they're still evading detection after they've b...
queensbridge benzo
  08/05/26
The immigration situation is untenable and it's been shown t...
kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo
  07/08/26
tl; dr
crimson mischievous kitty cat
  07/08/26
Cartel type gangsters will be prosecuted to the fullest exte...
kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo
  07/08/26
We don't need to trade our fucking national integrity and im...
crawly volcanic crater space
  07/08/26
The things that you are talking about haven't meaningfully h...
kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo
  07/08/26
You're right. Recent and current Venezuela and Cuba aren't ...
crawly volcanic crater space
  07/08/26
Cuba is doing fine and the doors have been opening now that ...
kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo
  07/08/26
You're right. The US didn't abduct Maduro in the night or p...
crawly volcanic crater space
  07/08/26
what trump's impoverished white base can never admit to itse...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/08/26
suffice to say the trump movement was supposed to go in a ve...
kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo
  07/08/26
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big-titted international law enforcement agency stage
  07/09/26
this is why nobody respects right wing justices
vigorous outnumbered son of senegal bawdyhouse
  07/08/26
they have to go back
fragrant deep place of business menage
  07/08/26
They didnt come here LEGALLY, therefore the LEGAL system doe...
cream nudist dysfunction orchestra pit
  07/08/26
i don't think you "got it" because you're a very s...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/08/26
I think the indictment and arrest of Nicolas Maduro shows th...
appetizing hairless business firm party of the first part
  07/08/26
Libs recently argued to SCOTUS that people physically standi...
magenta church building doctorate
  07/08/26
you can't cite a restriction that was intended reduce (but n...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/08/26
It’s nothing like that you fucking dullard
ivory provocative temple
  07/08/26
Cons think there's still room for debate on this issue 🤣
crimson mischievous kitty cat
  07/08/26
none of you knuckleheads saying this is a simple, obvious qu...
Contagious Rough-skinned Multi-billionaire Wagecucks
  07/08/26
The decision will be overturned any day now
crimson mischievous kitty cat
  07/08/26
it's not ambiguous
Vibrant Opaque Police Squad Skinny Woman
  07/09/26
do you find it strange that committing a crime (entering the...
Contagious Rough-skinned Multi-billionaire Wagecucks
  07/09/26
the language isn't remotely ambiguous. it's three sentences...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/09/26
This is where you look into intent as well. This was a slav...
crawly volcanic crater space
  07/09/26
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Contagious Rough-skinned Multi-billionaire Wagecucks
  07/09/26
then add a brief line to the already very brief clause. if ...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/09/26
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frisky marvelous locus ceo
  07/09/26
hey cons, got any more semantic arguments?
crimson mischievous kitty cat
  07/09/26
Cons?
crimson mischievous kitty cat
  07/09/26
subject to jurisdition means you are a fucking citizen. why ...
frisky marvelous locus ceo
  07/09/26
Dude, it's benzo. Part of the fun is talking in circles in ...
crawly volcanic crater space
  07/09/26
Quick, call John Roberts. This is outstanding logic
crimson mischievous kitty cat
  07/09/26
It’s the logic of the guys who wrote the damn thing. I...
frisky marvelous locus ceo
  07/09/26
Ok then I guess your kids won't become citizens at birth. Yo...
crimson mischievous kitty cat
  07/09/26
My papers are in order. I am a citizen not a brown retard.
frisky marvelous locus ceo
  07/10/26
apparently the meaning of words is inadequate to determine t...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/09/26
Everyone on our soil has to follow our laws. Same as if I we...
frisky marvelous locus ceo
  07/10/26
they used the word citizen like five times (except to descri...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/11/26
The Honorable Justice Benzo: “they are subject to some...
multi-colored private investor background story
  07/09/26
"only citizens have to follow the law, which is why the...
laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter
  07/09/26
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queensbridge benzo
  08/05/26
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  08/05/26


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Date: July 8th, 2026 1:53 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986329)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 2:07 PM
Author: crawly volcanic crater space

I wonder if it would be relevant for this conundrum that their very presence here is predicated on evading the US' assertion of jurisdiction over them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986336)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 4:14 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

*evades non existent jurisdiction* (hegseth drunk driving abroad)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986672)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: crawly volcanic crater space

Speaking of being drunk, tell me again about this "non existent" jurisdiction thesis you have and how it supports your attempt at a point in this thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986711)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 5:40 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

"failing to detect" =/= "lacking jurisdiction"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986813)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:51 AM
Author: crawly volcanic crater space

"failing to detect" isn't accurate. "Intentionally avoiding the instruments of jurisdictional awareness and assertion" is much more accurate

You're also conflating the subjects of each of your statements. One is aimed at the lawbreakers illegally entering the country. The other is aimed at the children birthed by the lawbreakers

Either way, they shouldn't go back. Instead, the lawbreakers should be rounded up and tossed from helicopters 50 miles off the nearest ocean coast to where they were found

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988139)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:59 AM
Author: smoky irradiated potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988160)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 8:12 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

oh ok so evading detection means there's a lack of jurisdiction, and that lack of jurisdiction is precisely what makes them subject to immigration laws. (actual retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49989453)



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Date: August 5th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Yes, you're an actual retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#50047241)



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Date: August 5th, 2026 4:01 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo

yeah because they're still evading detection after they've been detected

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#50047382)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 2:09 PM
Author: kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo

The immigration situation is untenable and it's been shown time and time again that many of these newer immigrants have no respect for American culture and our way of being. Also anti-white discrimination is real and experienced by many in the modern day United States and this must be addressed, or be allowed to be addressed, by actors and agents within the government.

Continued immigration from these regions is a fine prospect under certain auspices but Dems have been going all out to keep these people from integrating and culturally becoming more settled within the American project.

It goes without saying at this point that, "If you have open borders you shortly will find yourself without a state." Many immigrants are not respecting the liberal facets of American culture and the effects of this on your own demographic have been keenly felt, observed, and noted.

This said, we need a sort of "New Deal" to strengthen our ties with South and Central America and shore up the spirit of the Monroe doctrine. Special and certain immigration provisions, open to people willing to break with their ethnic and cultural ties to integrate into the wider American experiment, could be a part of this.

Trump has been fair to decent on the immigration issue all in all but there's only so much that can be done with the current cultural mess left by this foreign promulgated neo-Bolshevik political insanity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986342)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: crimson mischievous kitty cat

tl; dr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986343)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 2:13 PM
Author: kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo

Cartel type gangsters will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and our security partners in Israel and the wider North American community are now fully on board with this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986344)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 2:14 PM
Author: crawly volcanic crater space

We don't need to trade our fucking national integrity and immigration rights to secure the benefits you're talking about. If we stopped using our CIA and influence to destabilize or vassalize everyone in our hemisphere, motherfuckers would be receptive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986347)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo

The things that you are talking about haven't meaningfully happened for decades and took place under war time conditions with an existential threat to the natural liberties of man, as those natural liberties were protected by the Anglo-American led Euro-American alliance against the tyranny of Bolshevism

Respect your elders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986420)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 3:06 PM
Author: crawly volcanic crater space

You're right. Recent and current Venezuela and Cuba aren't part of an intentional, multi decades-long US foreign policy approach. Don't know what I was thinking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986494)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 4:26 PM
Author: kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo

Cuba is doing fine and the doors have been opening now that the Castros are out of power. The main reason rapproachment didn't take place sooner is the very influential Cuban lobby's effects on both the right and the left; it hasn't been an American area of concern for some time

Venezuela's a result of the Chinese push into the region as well as Russian attempts at using Venezuelan oil to further hamper the West's response to the Ukrainian invasion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986682)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 4:54 PM
Author: crawly volcanic crater space

You're right. The US didn't abduct Maduro in the night or physically blockade Cuba

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986713)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 4:13 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

what trump's impoverished white base can never admit to itself is that the only reason they have food and healthcare is because mexians are smart enough to vote in a self interested way. but this thread isn't about immigration--it's about lawless venal hacks making shit up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986667)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 5:13 PM
Author: kink-friendly greedy psychic tattoo

suffice to say the trump movement was supposed to go in a very different direction and ended up being stymied by needlessly reactionary forces

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986758)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 7:32 AM
Author: big-titted international law enforcement agency stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987841)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 2:32 PM
Author: vigorous outnumbered son of senegal bawdyhouse

this is why nobody respects right wing justices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986394)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 2:33 PM
Author: fragrant deep place of business menage

they have to go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986397)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 4:24 PM
Author: cream nudist dysfunction orchestra pit

They didnt come here LEGALLY, therefore the LEGAL system doesn't apply to them

Got it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986681)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 4:42 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

i don't think you "got it" because you're a very stupid person who can't read. if you're in america, you have to follow the law (ie you're "subject to the jurisdiction" of the american government). whether or not you're here legally doesn't change that fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986694)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 5:18 PM
Author: appetizing hairless business firm party of the first part

I think the indictment and arrest of Nicolas Maduro shows there are very few places on earth, maybe China, Russia, and North Korea, where the people aren't subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, so at this point we're only arguing about where the "United States" is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986769)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 5:42 PM
Author: magenta church building doctorate

Libs recently argued to SCOTUS that people physically standing inside Mexican territory, not touching the border, are "in the United States".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49986825)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 10:15 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

you can't cite a restriction that was intended reduce (but not eliminate) asylum claims then act like artificially manufacturing that restriction justifies using the law to do something it was never intended to do. this is like shooting someone at 3:59 pm then penalizing him for failing to meet a 4:00 pm deadline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987460)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 11:51 PM
Author: ivory provocative temple

It’s nothing like that you fucking dullard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987596)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: crimson mischievous kitty cat

Cons think there's still room for debate on this issue 🤣

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987252)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 10:22 PM
Author: Contagious Rough-skinned Multi-billionaire Wagecucks

none of you knuckleheads saying this is a simple, obvious question like benzo actually read the supreme court opinions. all sorts of interesting historical letters and views cited. genuine disagreement among prominent historians what the original textual meaning is. if it's ambiguous, maybe we should err on the side of not handing out citizenship willy nilly unless congress opines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987467)



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Date: July 8th, 2026 11:05 PM
Author: crimson mischievous kitty cat

The decision will be overturned any day now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987544)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 12:43 AM
Author: Vibrant Opaque Police Squad Skinny Woman

it's not ambiguous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987654)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Contagious Rough-skinned Multi-billionaire Wagecucks

do you find it strange that committing a crime (entering the usa with the intent to live here, without authority) grants the lawbreaker a legal right for his future generations? it seems kind of perverse, no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987938)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 1:27 AM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

the language isn't remotely ambiguous. it's three sentences long and it must have been perfectly foreseeable that it would be interpreted to mean exactly what it says. it's not like the citizenship clause was bestowed on us by aliens who were unaware of visiting noncitizens sometimes giving birth to children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987676)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:56 AM
Author: crawly volcanic crater space

This is where you look into intent as well. This was a slave amendment. It had nothing to do with wanting to provide rights to foreign invaders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988152)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 7:31 PM
Author: Contagious Rough-skinned Multi-billionaire Wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49989356)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 8:06 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

then add a brief line to the already very brief clause. if you're serious about wanting people to do something, you don't make them go on a scavenger hunt for clues about your intentions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49989438)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 11:58 AM
Author: frisky marvelous locus ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988276)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 12:12 AM
Author: crimson mischievous kitty cat

hey cons, got any more semantic arguments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49987622)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:18 AM
Author: crimson mischievous kitty cat

Cons?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988057)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:41 AM
Author: frisky marvelous locus ceo

subject to jurisdition means you are a fucking citizen. why else put it in?

the alternative is to say ilegal aliens are not subject to our laws, which is of course absurd. everyone everywhere is subject to the law of whatever soil their feet happen to be on at the moment.

fuck me blind xo is dumb as shit these days.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988112)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 10:57 AM
Author: crawly volcanic crater space

Dude, it's benzo. Part of the fun is talking in circles in ways he can kinda sorta follow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988157)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 1:41 PM
Author: crimson mischievous kitty cat

Quick, call John Roberts. This is outstanding logic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988450)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 4:10 PM
Author: frisky marvelous locus ceo

It’s the logic of the guys who wrote the damn thing. I don’t need a closet gays opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988744)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: crimson mischievous kitty cat

Ok then I guess your kids won't become citizens at birth. You'll need have your papers in order

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49988828)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 9:49 AM
Author: frisky marvelous locus ceo

My papers are in order. I am a citizen not a brown retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49990438)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

apparently the meaning of words is inadequate to determine the meaning of words. the phrase means "has to follow our laws" and applies to all but like 5 people in the country at any given time (ie people representing foreign governments). if they meant "citizens" then they probably would have used the word "citizens."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49989473)



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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:01 AM
Author: frisky marvelous locus ceo

Everyone on our soil has to follow our laws. Same as if I were to go to Tokyo today - I would have to follow Japanese law. But I am not subject to their jurisdiction for I am subject to US jurisdiction. jurisdiction being a legal concept (extradition laws, court procedures, counsel requirements, etc)

This is the obvious meaning and intention. It’s sad that it’s been perverted by the few to the detriment of the many.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49990462)



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Date: July 11th, 2026 6:07 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

they used the word citizen like five times (except to describe the requirement you made up re: people's parents). but yeah they wanted people to obey something and thought the best way to go about it was to make them go on a scavenger hunt for clues to figure out what they were talking about instead of just saying what they meant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49993310)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 8:25 PM
Author: multi-colored private investor background story

The Honorable Justice Benzo: “they are subject to some of our laws, so therefore the children of foreign diplomats, dignitaries, and invading armies are US citizens after all.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49989494)



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Date: July 9th, 2026 8:39 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter

"only citizens have to follow the law, which is why they didn't use the word citizens"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#49989542)



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Date: July 16th, 2026 9:19 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#50005219)



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Date: July 17th, 2026 3:07 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#50006811)



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Date: July 22nd, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: laughsome walnut becky faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#50017985)



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Date: August 5th, 2026 2:32 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#50047196)



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Date: August 5th, 2026 3:01 PM
Author: Shturm Z

Z

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5880790&forum_id=2...id#50047251)