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Alasdair MacIntyre: “the new dark ages which are already upon us”

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me. “...
Zippy prole
  02/16/21
link plz
Twinkling mind-boggling forum
  03/29/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue
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  03/29/21
"construction of local forms of community within which ...
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*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*
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this is a second Renaissance
Deranged Mood
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just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory towe...
Indigo pea-brained stain
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Harsh but fair
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After Virtue is 180
Citrine toaster
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he is 180
cyan free-loading place of business parlor
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That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs ...
Zippy prole
  02/16/21
link? what books of his have you read?
cyan free-loading place of business parlor
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://you...
Zippy prole
  02/16/21
The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans
khaki geriatric ape
  02/16/21
Hard to make a distinction by the end.
Zippy prole
  02/16/21
only of you're a drunk Roman
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Lol @ premils
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quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient h...
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even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empi...
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i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude ...
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dominicans are unironically natsoc
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Date: February 16th, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: Zippy prole

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me.

“A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead often not recognizing fully what they were doing—was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition is correct, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41954317)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Twinkling mind-boggling forum

link plz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#42183785)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: Zippy prole

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#42183802)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 11:14 PM
Author: Brilliant Field

"construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained"

move to the sticks and make good with everyone you can.

sounds good to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#43258556)



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Date: March 14th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: Contagious Idiotic Point Cuckoldry



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: Excitant background story sandwich



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:18 PM
Author: soul-stirring haunting sneaky criminal

*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957375)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:26 PM
Author: Deranged Mood

this is a second Renaissance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957423)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:28 PM
Author: Indigo pea-brained stain

just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory tower reading classical bullshit and seeing vandals and visigoths everywhere when he ventures outside the campus. charles taylor is tcr communitarian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957439)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:30 PM
Author: Zippy prole

Harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957810)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: nubile organic girlfriend



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Site Milk



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:52 PM
Author: nubile organic girlfriend



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:40 PM
Author: Citrine toaster

After Virtue is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957508)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: cyan free-loading place of business parlor

he is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957816)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:34 PM
Author: Zippy prole

That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs really drove home the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957825)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: cyan free-loading place of business parlor

link?

what books of his have you read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957902)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Zippy prole

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

https://youtu.be/7_ssRpso9e8?t=2626

This little snippet really drives it home though and makes the leap from seemingly magical tech to us being in a full fledge culture extinction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41958239)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:44 PM
Author: khaki geriatric ape

The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957873)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:46 PM
Author: Zippy prole

Hard to make a distinction by the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41957881)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:37 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal parlour

only of you're a drunk Roman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41958115)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:39 PM
Author: cerebral brunch

Lol @ premils

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41963758)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: February 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: cyan free-loading place of business parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#41979396)



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Date: March 2nd, 2021 12:19 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: March 18th, 2021 12:02 AM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: unholy jet senate telephone

quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient history...it's not the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#42183780)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: Twinkling mind-boggling forum

It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between one historical period and another; and among the most misleading of such parallels are those which have been drawn between our own age in Europe and North America and the epoch in which the Roman empire declined into the Dark Ages. Nonetheless certain parallels there are. A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead–often not recognizing fully what they were doing–was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us. And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time, however, the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#43308041)



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Date: April 14th, 2021 10:16 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: April 30th, 2021 7:19 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:42 AM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:48 AM
Author: motley business firm potus

even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empire now have to admit that there is, by any description, no shared purpose. all the "good" things that can happen these days are things that would benefit you or your family. Get comparatively rich, get a better job, etc. No one even considers benefits to the community or "America". And sure as shit no one will accept personal detriment for America's improvement.

This has to be a clear sign that it's over. Im reminded of those videos of Army doods all saying "lol fuck the Army, my recruiter lied, this sucks", rating it as they would a job or college. Imagine asking enlisted men to consider their lives as contributing to America's glory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#43235671)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:53 AM
Author: Navy reading party tanning salon



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: motley business firm potus

i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude got pulled out of line. "are you dominican?" they asked him

The dude got all worked up, "me?! Dominican as fuck! Pure blood. Dominican to my core!" etc

Tried to imagine someone being so insulted and prideful about being american, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#43235780)



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: Twinkling mind-boggling forum

dominicans are unironically natsoc

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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:29 AM
Author: Zippy prole

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSdnESSU-WRTBliI5nWkh_dlW_H3tOaxC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#43235846)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: March 3rd, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:32 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: maize knife



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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: April 25th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: June 3rd, 2023 6:48 PM
Author: Boyish Sable Temple



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:03 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:30 PM
Author: Appetizing lime step-uncle's house

every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities who carry the flame when the wheels come off.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id#46393785)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 8:33 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: talking digit ratio



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: Zippy prole



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:22 AM
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