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Siggers btfo

https://www.thetrace.org/2025/07/sig-sauer-p320-pistol-safet...
Afghan HDI charts
  07/28/25
I think they're cheaper when compared like for like. But my ...
Fucking Fuckface
  07/28/25
vs what, glocks? sigs are more expensive; they're in the H&a...
Afghan HDI charts
  07/28/25
The p365 was around $500 with night sights when I got it. Ba...
Fucking Fuckface
  07/28/25
you got a pretty good deal then. the 365 is fun to shoot wit...
Afghan HDI charts
  07/28/25
M&P FTW
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  07/28/25
for American brands springfield's semi-automatics have surpr...
Afghan HDI charts
  07/28/25
I thought the M&P was their only good gun but still good...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  07/29/25


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Date: July 28th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: Afghan HDI charts

https://www.thetrace.org/2025/07/sig-sauer-p320-pistol-safety-ice-ban/

the p320 in particular is having dropfire issues relating to either faulty trigger assemblies or perhaps a design flaw. there was an issue at a military base with a discharge injuring a serviceman as well.

glocks are ugly as all hell and "muh safety" but i don't know why they don't just go with those for law enforcement and similar duties. sig pistols have a perception of being "high tech" and "aesthetically attractive" but personally i find them to be more overengineered Teutonic miata crap in the hand, and that hand better be small because otherwise you're going to have a weird grip on the pistol

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Date: July 28th, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

I think they're cheaper when compared like for like. But my only reference is the p365

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Date: July 28th, 2025 10:29 PM
Author: Afghan HDI charts

vs what, glocks? sigs are more expensive; they're in the H&K/FN price tier, a bit under as H&K has become very pricy, although they've gotten cheaper in recent years. i don't buy anything anymore so my numbers may be off

glocks are pretty cheap, comparable to similar quality american offerings, and iirc they have really good bulk discount deals if you're buying for an entire org. maybe used and there will certainly be a lot of them on the resale market after this

ICE or whoever could just use the M1 that the army uses. they're not S&W or glock cheap but they're very reliable, easy to clean and fix, and while this is very subjective i think that their ergonomics are better than glock or sig sauer offerings. better barrel weight and very nice balance from magazine to tip, and this is a constant for every beretta i've tried out

as an aside the p365 is nice and snappy but imo too expensive and small in the hand. their grips tend to be kind of, idk, "thin"? i guess and it's unpleasant for me

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Date: July 28th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

The p365 was around $500 with night sights when I got it. Back then, glocks with night sights were around $600 (and they didn't yet have comparable model).

If there had been a similar Glock back then, I would probably have gone with it



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Date: July 28th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Afghan HDI charts

you got a pretty good deal then. the 365 is fun to shoot with a very tight slide action, "snappy" is the best way to put it. for that price you definitely made the right choice. sig has really good accessory support too imo

the action on those feels a lot better than glocks. glocks are not fun or satisfying to shoot at all; using them at the range feels like a chore imo. accuracy is good but not great, though it is true that you'll never really have a misfire with them, even if you're feeding them crappy and dirty winchester or tula garbage pail ammo. sigs are pretty finicky in comparison. i used my old roommate's extensively and had to disassemble and clean it after every trip to the range or else next trip there'd be a jam within a magazine or two

night sights are neat but but i've never really seen any practical use for them on a pistol. i have a tritium sight euro 9 and it's fun to play around with but if someone has broken into my house and i'm blurry eyed i'm not going to sit and line up a shot, it's point and shoot time and this is what you really go to the range for

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Date: July 28th, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


M&P FTW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755830&forum_id=2...id#49139012)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 10:43 PM
Author: Afghan HDI charts

for American brands springfield's semi-automatics have surprisingly passed S&W in quality. S&W has regular QC issues relating to their machining process, and their stock grips made my hands literally bleed once when i tried a 2.0 out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755830&forum_id=2...id#49139083)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:53 AM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


I thought the M&P was their only good gun but still good enough and more comfortable than glocks. Their other guns are painful to use like you said

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755830&forum_id=2...id#49139432)