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Carly Fiorina: Chinks are uncreative robots (not flame):
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:18 PM Author: diverse crawly stead lol, white women sticking it to asians even harder:
Carly Fiorina Says the Chinese Aren't 'Terribly Imaginative'
According to Carly Fiorina, the Chinese people suffer from a creative block.
In a video filmed by the Iowa political blog Caffeinated Thoughts before she announced her presidential candidacy, Fiorina explains her opposition to Common Core educational standards by noting a key rationale for instituting the federal benchmarks.
"I also think the argument for Common Core is frequently, 'oh, we've got to compete with the Chinese,'" Fiorina said. "I've been doing business with the Chinese for decades and I will tell you that yeah the Chinese can take a test, but what they can't do is innovate. They're not terribly imaginative. They're not entrepreneurial. They don't innovate—that's why they're stealing our intellectual property."
Fiorina added that, in contrast to the Chinese, America needed an education system that inspired creativity.
"One of the things we have to maintain about our school system, which comes with local control, is to teach entrepreneurship, innovation, risk taking, imagination. These are things that are distinctly American, and we can't lose them," Fiorina said.
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:21 PM Author: Chrome Dog Poop Relevant to my interests. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27969864) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:41 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug China is #2 in R&D now and will overtake the US in next 7-10 years. There is more innovation in China than anywhere else on the globe except the US and soon that "except" will go away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970014) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:43 PM Author: tan boiling water corner youre dumb and gay stfu and sit in the humbler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970024) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 11:26 PM Author: orchid chapel Titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970972) |
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Date: May 27th, 2015 6:23 PM Author: Stirring bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27976359) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:44 PM Author: Comical personal credit line guy who has NO FCKNG IDEA about what he is talking about
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:46 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug You should open a scientific journal or two. Aside from Chicoms and Indians arent too many other names in any of them today. The Chicoms are increasingly Chicom Chicoms and not Yankee Chicoms. In certain areas like material sciences China and Chinese today are generating 70% of the research. In aircraft composites and ceramics over half the research today is being done in China and it is wholly original work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970050) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:49 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house Oh the scholarship!
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/dozens-scientific-papers-withdrawn-probably-more-come |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:50 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug Doesnt matter. The amount of good original work is huge and grows massively every year. The US still leads them but the lead shrinks every year and will be gone in less than a decade. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970083) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:52 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house I'll believe they are producing things worth protecting when China institutes a basic regime of IP law and courts that actively protect it.
I've been working across the table from Chinese companies for a decade and I really haven't seen anything approaching innovation outside of some really impressive interpersonal money laundering schemes. |
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Date: May 27th, 2015 6:24 PM Author: Stirring bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27976363) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:51 PM Author: Comical personal credit line Hey shithead I actually work in BIGTECH and am on the EE side. I have a very good idea of where China is
The only scary thing about China is that they have along term strategic plan and have the political system that is methodically working towards achieving it which is not good for world peace. There is no foreseeable future where China or any country will overtake US in science /engineering/ technology
If anything the US technical edge has increased in the last decade compared to its closest competitors namely Germany/Japan/UK/France
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:58 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug Europe is dead in terms of its radio electronic industrial base. The US lead over Europe has grown and over Japan too. It has shrunk massively as compared to China and Russia for that matter too. Russia is starting to roll out 28nm now. The Chinese are heading to 10nm admittedly with substantial dependence on some key US inputs but nothing that with another $100 billion they couldnt ultimately supplant too. The Chinese are intentionally keeping a degree of dependence on US inputs precisely to prevent the confrontation you envision. If 15 years ago someone told you TSMC was heading to 10nm right with Intel and that Russia would be at 28nm nobody would believe it. At that point Russia was 20 years behind and China over 10. Today the Russians are under 5 years and the Chinese arent behind at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970135) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:08 PM Author: Comical personal credit line you still have no fckng idea
First TSMC is Taiwanese and China sucks in semiconductor manufacturing which is dominated by Intel, Samsung LSI and TSMC
Below them is Global foundries (ex AMD/IBM/Chartered), UMC (Taiwanese) and there is no Chinese company that is anywhere close to US/Taiwan/SK in semiconductor manufacturing
I know you are complete flame when you talk about 28nm which basically is 2 or 3 generations behind latest technology node. LJL at Russia going to 28nm NOW. Second nobody would doubt TSMC as they have been cutting edge for a while and going head to head with Intel. Third stop counting TSMC as Chinese. It has nothing to do with China
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Date: May 27th, 2015 3:17 AM Author: green beta preventive strike address Another example of ARE Reptile getting told and suddenly disappearing when he can't bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27972147) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:45 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house (Chinese bro innovating as he rips apart an iPhone in his company's R&D department) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970043) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:49 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug Consumer electronics are where innovation goes to die. That aint where real R&D is done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970076) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:54 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house Yet strangely all of their megacap companies are consumer facing or state owned money shufflers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970116) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:00 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug Except they're not. Microsoft is enterprise facing. Apple is the exception to the rule. Consumer electronic companies have a habit of ceasing to exist while enterprise focused firms endure literally centuries (IBM). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970160) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:05 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house I was talking about Chinese companies bro. Tencent, Xiaomi, Alibaba, Weibo, Baidu, etc. We have an extremely diversified set of megacap companies, which is exactly my point.
Xiaomi can't even enter the US phone market because they're terrified of Apple. Shit is lulz. |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:10 PM Author: Comical personal credit line All of them are ripoffs of American companies and ideas. Social media/online retail is easy to copy and there is no proprietary technological edge so Chinese companies can compete there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970235) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:13 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house Yeah, I'm just educating my boy Reptile here. I like talking to him about the Ukraine but he's way off base on this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970267) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:22 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug And thats why there's no innovation in those BS areas. Coming up with a website is not innovation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970337) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:20 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug Its not that they are afraid its that regulatory BS makes entering the US market very hard. Yota has been selling the Yotaphone globally without a problem for 2 years now but cant get past your shitty FCC regs with a product that has sold 1.3 million units globally. Its a fucking joke trying to get a consumer device designed outside the US into the US market. You basically have to redesign your product and by the time you do the underlying tech is obsolete and you have to start over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970320) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:40 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house Yet there HTC, Samsung, Sony and Nokia are, just releasing phones like they're going out of style. No complaints from them. However, the Chinese, the masters of byzantine local regulations designed for protectionism are having the FIGHT OF THEIR LIVES trying to get a device stateside due to "regulations" every other country seems to have no issue with. Clearly this is the issue of our regulatory regime and not the fact that they would have a massive IP issue.
You need to take a step back and evaluate your argument.
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:49 PM Author: purple nibblets psychic Category error.
Creativity isn't the same as research.
Creativity is coming up with a new concept, research is collecting evidence or tweaking one.
Not that I agree with the OP's thesis just point out that your logic is bad. |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:52 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug Yeah, BS. The Steve Jobs's of the world are a dime a dozen. The Wozniaks do all the real work and the Jobs mother fuckers only come in after the tech is already dispersed to the point where 10 different fuckers have virtually identical products on the market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970101) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:56 PM Author: purple nibblets psychic Holy shit, if you are going to defend category errors and other blatantly flawed logic, at least find an example that doesn't prove *MY* point! The fact that Steve was able to do it THREE times (Apple 1.0, Pixar, Apple 2.0) while the people under him never did anything except when they were working for him, proves that he, not Wozniak or Jony Ive, was the secret sauce.
You have the whole situation completely backward. The rarest and most valuable skills are those that are actually the most intangible. If you compare Einsteins, Beethovens, and John Lennons with workhorses hanging out in Pfizer R&D, what you inevitably find about the ones who are seen as geniuses is that they were more philosophical or creative than the other dudes, not that they were better workhorses. |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:59 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug And belief in BS like this is why the Chicoms will be able to bury you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970147) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:53 PM Author: turquoise pistol indian lodge WTF is a "new concept?"
The Apple iPod? |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:01 PM Author: purple nibblets psychic The fact that MP3 players became known as iPods is another consequence of what I'm saying... The iPod was so brilliantly designed it basically became a new category of thing, a wholly different idea from the mp3 players that existed before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970165) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:03 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug Except for the whole "functionally identical" thing, right? Without slick marketing and pretty colors it would be just another MP3 player. Marketing is not innovation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970179) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:11 PM Author: purple nibblets psychic It was all about the big screen, the aluminum casing, the minimalist design and replacement of the awkward buttons with an unobtrusive wheel... Steve Jobs' championing of minimalism and button-free designs has completely changed electronics design forever. An area of engineering that was known for completely ignoring design now actually features some of the best design in the world, thanks to Jobs' vision.
By disparaging design as 'pretty colors' you give away the game: you want to downplay the importance of the human element in technology. But it's nonetheless there, stark and unavoidable as ever. Design does not just affect how things look; it also has an impact on how easy they are for consumers to use. Many people would abandon using the thing below just because it was so annoying to use.
http://i.imgur.com/gy16v.jpg |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:17 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house Marketing acts as a multiplier on the business potential of a particular innovation. I find it hard to believe that you're over there arguing that a $700b+ company has little of value outside of marketing prowess.
I mean, jesus man.
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:28 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug As a general rule I dont think OEM "integrators" like Apple or Dell for that matter innovate. The innovation is done on the part of their suppliers. Apple doesnt develop the big screens for its phones -- it orders them and integrates them into a box. That's why 10 seconds after the iPhone everyone else got the same big screens for their phones too. Its the same with cars -- the innovation is done by parts suppliers like Magna or Tenneco that the average Joe has never heard of and today everyone sources their parts from the same places and the difference between that Ford and that Volkswagen or Toyota is laughably small and pretty much all branding since all the parts were actually designed by the same people at places like Magna and increasingly NOT at Ford or GM or Toyota. The OEM integrators in auto and in tech are increasingly just marketers of tech developed not by them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970387) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 10:46 PM Author: purple nibblets psychic Do you seriously think that an idea like "touch screens are better than buttons because they lead to gains in screen size" is not some kind of innovation? Certainly nobody before Steve seems to have thought of it or at least nobody actually influential in a company seems to have thought of it. Ideas that succeed with flying colors tend to be seen as obvious IN HINDSIGHT because, well, we've had them drilled into us and they become little more than a part of the landscape... But often the idea in its inception was revolutionary for its time.
Also, I oppose your logic explicitly on one point:
"Because 10 seconds after the iPhone had a touch screen touch screen phones aren't an innovation... It was really Magna or Tenneco that did the innovating."
This just fails. If Magna or Tenneco or whoever it was did the innovating, then only the companies THEY SUPPLY could get the touch screen... As it is, companies that even do their design in house have touch screens, so it's not [INSERT SUPPLIER HERE] who did the innovating *by your own logic* |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:51 PM Author: cheese-eating set sex offender Lol these projections are always such bs and are based on them maintaining same current growth. That's impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970093) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:53 PM Author: indecent bright theater antidepressant drug Except they've done precisely that for 30 years straight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970105) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:56 PM Author: Brilliant sticky house My boy Jinping has his work cut out for him. He won't hit 7% this year and his foreign reserves are going to be locked up to bail out the munis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970125) |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 9:27 PM Author: Comical personal credit line LJL at that humanities fraud knowing anything about innovation/creativity
she will be exhibit no 1 for the bullshit wall st driven capitalism we have |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 11:01 PM Author: Mauve supple hall A lot of Chinese I've met are actually insanely creative. Often a mix of creative insanity, love stuff that isn't just realistic, but you often get insane feats of creativity.
However, these were almost entirely Chinese boomers who never went through the Chinese education system, often with the help of the Cultural Revolution, so they escaped being turned into typical Asian super-study striver robots. |
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Date: May 26th, 2015 11:24 PM Author: mind-boggling infuriating fortuitous meteor If you think Carly Fiorina has anything worthwhile to say, you're a low IQ cumskin loser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2889997&forum_id=2...id#27970960) |
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Date: May 27th, 2015 6:17 PM Author: vibrant hilarious ratface this is so fucking stupid. the tired, shitty trope that we must TEACH KIDS TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX HURR DURP, by letting their **CREATIVITY** flower, propagated by dimwitted women & shitlib 'educators', is fucktarded. that's not the purpose of k-12 education. the reason the chinese are uncreative has nothing to do with education. |
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