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Ruling on $7.2M fees motion dropping July 8 🤞🤞
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Date: June 23rd, 2024 1:26 AM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47770520) |
Date: June 23rd, 2024 1:41 AM Author: dull ticket booth death wish which case is this again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47770525) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 5:40 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad That antitrust trial we had in LA in December (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47809805) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:04 PM Author: Walnut cerebral temple Give a quick rundown on how to do antitrust litigation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47809858) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:08 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad 1. Find a small business with a big competitor 2. Ask them what shit the big company is doing to strangle them 3. Write it down on paper that has line numbers on the side 4. Profit |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:10 PM Author: Diverse hairless brunch hairy legs college or wide-ruled? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47809880) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:26 PM Author: Walnut cerebral temple So like:
Big competitor buys from supplier with sweetheart prices = sue the supplier for price discrimination? Or both the competitor/supplier
Or big competitor has access to stuff we need = sue supplier/competitor?
Seems like expert witnesses stating enough "sufficient facts" on a complaint is a bitch. |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:29 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad The first one is what we do. Our cigar case was a version of the second one, but BigCo has to have monopoly power or threaten to have it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47809931) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:32 PM Author: Walnut cerebral temple How do you get around defense browser argument of "big competitor buys more and gets discounted rates bc of that"? Or is that more of a jury q (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47809936) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:38 PM Author: Shimmering passionate puppy parlor it seems like the robinson patman act requires that bulk discounts be a result of actual cost savings, and also proportional to such cost savings. i just googled though i don't really have any idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47809952) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:38 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad You can (usually) have volume discounts so long as they’re available to all competitors. But most suppliers only offer them to chains. They’ll stop doing this by the time my career is over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47809955) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 6:47 PM Author: Walnut cerebral temple Huh, interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47809973) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:03 PM Author: nofapping floppy heaven pervert How has Luxottica not been sued? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820214) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:13 PM Author: Ebony Razzle-dazzle Prole There are only a few huge rental car agencies and they all cross sell each others shit. Why not find some Reddit turo entrepreneurs as plaintiffs and show them how to make real money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820253) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:34 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad RPA only applies to goods, not services. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820348) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 10:30 PM Author: Infuriating principal's office sex offender It would be the greatest judicial outrage since the Dred Scott decision if your fee request is not granted in full. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47810550) |
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Date: July 4th, 2024 10:33 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad It won't be in full. We asked for a 2X multiplier, at rates of $1320/hour. I think we'll get the rate, but he probably won't give more than a 1.5 multiplier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47810554) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:39 AM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad OMG here we go, hearing in 20 minutes. Wish me luck bros (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820160) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:40 AM Author: Blathering frozen chapel headpube zoom link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820166) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:43 AM Author: coral fantasy-prone hall boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820176) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:47 AM Author: Ebony Razzle-dazzle Prole I am for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820184) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:54 AM Author: azure dingle berry Fuck you, nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820197) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:54 AM Author: chestnut autistic bawdyhouse partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820199) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: brilliant generalized bond nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820279) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:31 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Bullshit! No multiplier pwned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820330) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:33 PM Author: coral fantasy-prone hall boistinker 👎 sorry brah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820343) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:34 PM Author: plum church Pwn3d (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820345) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:40 PM Author: Aggressive Old Irish Cottage Becky Glory boy judge looking down his nose at ham 'n egger plaintiffs' counsel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820385) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:43 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Judges who topped out at $550/hour get real maf+jelly when we tell them our current "reasonable rate" is 3X that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820394) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:47 PM Author: plum church $1320 is cheap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820416) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:49 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Sickening feeling he's not gonna award even that. He hates lawyers getting rich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820430) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:54 PM Author: plum church So he said no multiplier and he cut your rates? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820450) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:56 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad He didn't announce his ruling, but said that he came from a small firm, and "it just doesn't seem right" to award us big firm rates. Meanwhile in a case we co-counseled with Goldstein in CD Cal, the court awarded him $2,080. And he's only 30% smarter than I am. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820460) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:00 PM Author: plum church $1320 is not big firm rates. Well, maybe for an associate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820480) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:15 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Our opposing counsel says he charged $750/hour (shitty Philly-based "big law" firm) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820561) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:21 PM Author: plum church Litigating in California? lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820589) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:22 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Their 110-IQ partners on this case are based in LA and SF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820594) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 5:09 PM Author: umber stubborn queen of the night baker hostetler? $750/hr sounds about right. when i left there in 2022, my rate (traditional labor) was $700 or $750. they actually were way under market and were getting rates up around the time i left. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47821558) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 12:07 AM Author: Walnut cerebral temple Gunneratttt absolutely btfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822985) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 1:22 AM Author: talented tripping forum sound barrier My solo rate is really close to $1000 less than that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47823116) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:09 PM Author: Useless Disrespectful Gaming Laptop LOL
Sorry that sucks. but "it dont seem right, I only billed out at 400 in 90s and we had to write off the time we were walking to the library' is funny |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:15 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad I don't find it funny at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820555) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:16 PM Author: Useless Disrespectful Gaming Laptop so whats the total under the summer associate billing rates he's giving you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820566) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:21 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad We'll see when the final order comes out. I'm guessing just a little over $1,000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820584) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 2:38 PM Author: Shimmering passionate puppy parlor rooting for you, brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820976) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:41 PM Author: shivering gay wizard Gods doing for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822728) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:41 PM Author: shivering gay wizard That’s absurd. The question is value provided, not how many people are in your HR system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822727) |
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Date: July 13th, 2024 6:52 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Yeah. 9th Cir has an opinion recognizing that they haven’t decided whether firm size should matter. I’m guessing we’ll be the ones to get a published opinion on this, if our judge leaves it in the final order (he might remove that language from his tentative bc I complained about it, just to bullet proof his order while silently fucking us over) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47838125) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 12:47 PM Author: Aggressive Old Irish Cottage Becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820419) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 2:03 PM Author: Ebony Razzle-dazzle Prole That sucks bro. You may need to start getting your bets using the DBG billing method (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820791) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 2:24 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Thinking about launching a colab with the SoCal shitlaw crew, to create a 20-person firm that exists only on a single website, and can just bill the absolute shit out of things at $500/hour. ZZZ, RT, KJC, everyone welcome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820893) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 2:25 PM Author: Ebony Razzle-dazzle Prole Now you're thinking like a lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47820896) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:42 PM Author: excitant big-titted rigor school cafeteria 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822913) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 1:21 AM Author: talented tripping forum sound barrier *dusts off resume* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47823114) |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 5:22 AM Author: Mind-boggling double fault property why the fuck not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47845515) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 4:21 PM Author: Infuriating principal's office sex offender It's Gypsy curse time for the judge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47821448) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:42 PM Author: Laughsome Hospital I'm in PI but we see this fucking boomer shit all the time from judges. I have my hourly rate at 1000/hr and judges all seem to believe that partner rates in our area are 500/hr.
They are seemingly completely unaware of inflation and that no one is billing 500/hr anymore.
Can you appeal his shitty award or are you stuck with it. Could you provide additional briefing with rate sheets for various firms engaged in similar types of work?
Seems like some other class action firms would happily share their attny fee awards along the lines of rising tides lifts all ships? |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 2:22 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad It's very hard to appeal b/c appellate courts give so much "discretion" to trial judges in rate-setting. Unless he bases it on an impermissible factor (which he's smart enough to avoid doing) you can't really just say "that's not enough."
We had plenty data points and awards from other cases, but at the hearing he was just like, "meh, I'm not really sure about that." |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 5:07 PM Author: Laughsome Hospital fuck that sucks. Fuck these boomer judges.
Also, it's not getting any better because judges salaries and workloads are such SPS these days. So you're getting lower and lower tier attorneys who are interested in becoming judges. So instead of some big law retiree, you're getting Insurance Defense of counsels making 150k jumping on the bench to 180k and thinking attnys fees of 1000/hr are egregious. |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:42 PM Author: violent chest-beating piazza liquid oxygen Why don’t you pay him a kickback? Thats basically how xo Clarence makes his living (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822731) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:37 PM Author: violent chest-beating piazza liquid oxygen I don’t understand why EPAH doesn’t just retire. I could comfortably retire from just one of his cases (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822716) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:39 PM Author: shivering gay wizard He spent it all on the Hawaii house. He needs another 1-2 to kick back and just fuck mocha caramel colored chicks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822724) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:08 PM Author: Useless Disrespectful Gaming Laptop why would he do that. he has a hugely successful 'solo' firm where he knows his practice area really well and gapes opposing counsel and gets great referrals. he is clearly addicted to the work.
law can be 'fun' when you have a bunch of advantages over the other side, i.e., are the plaintiff, can shape your claims, can prosecute the litigation as you see fit, are smarter than the other side. the anxiety is less then. it sucks when you are at a scorched earth bill-fest firm as a junior preparing a million expert reports with cravath on the other side. |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:10 PM Author: violent chest-beating piazza liquid oxygen You still have to miss your kids’ shit to write emergency motions and stay up late for weeks preparing for trial (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822814) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:12 PM Author: umber stubborn queen of the night this is cr. i don't make anywhere near EPAH money (about 500k as a partner at a midlaw firm), but i don't answer to anyone because i'm the only traditional labor partner at the firm, the work is pretty fun, and again i don't answer to anyone.
i am trying to amass over 5 million over the next 5 or so years, but not sure if or when i will step back from law. i think about doing it a lot, but i'm not sure i really want to stop. not now anyway. |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:18 PM Author: Useless Disrespectful Gaming Laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822835) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 11:39 PM Author: Useless Disrespectful Gaming Laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47822910) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 7:33 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad This. Love it too much. And we don’t have the types of cases with emergency motions and shit too much. Also, couldn’t afford to outright retire tbh. Need $100k/yr to send to my ex so that she doesn’t have to work, and need another million net to pay for kids’ colleges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47825776) |
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Date: July 13th, 2024 12:09 AM Author: wild tantric new version What’s your networth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47836210) |
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Date: July 13th, 2024 3:51 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad However much my house is worth ATM basically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47837696) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 2:38 AM Author: Up-to-no-good base I’m pretty sure average big law partner is still at under 1k an hour unless you only mean v10 when saying big law… and even v10 m&a we are not being charged 1350 an hour for associates… more like 900… I agree with the judge that 1350 sounds excessive if you billed all hours at that rate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47823178) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 6:48 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad There’s a Wolters Klewer publication called the Real Rate Report that obtains actual billing info from some giant billing database and sorts it all. It reported the third-quartile partner rate for antitrust litigation (on a national basis) at $1312. For LA commercial litigation, the third quartile partner rate was like $1061 or something for 2023.
But yeah, HS’s figure is wildly off. |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 9:30 AM Author: Up-to-no-good base Antitrust lit is mostly v10 right? But yeah I agree antitrust dudes tend to bill out at huge rates because it’s bet the company/product type shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47841704) |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 3:28 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Yeah and this pisses me off too. The test for rates is “rate prevailing in the community for similar work performed by attorneys of comparable skill, experience, and reputation.” But then our judge is like, “Sure you guys take your cases to trial and win, but the real skill lies in Paul Weiss litigators charging their client $20M in fees en route to paying a $500M settlement. Now that’s what I call litigation!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47843274) |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: Up-to-no-good base The whole US systttem needs to be revised. Way too much rent seeking vs real disputes. Basically just severely limit discovery and push cases to trial quickly like much of the rest of the world. Bam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47847140) |
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Date: July 9th, 2024 7:34 PM Author: Swashbuckling police squad "even v10 m&a we are not being charged 1350 an hour for associates… more like 900"
Not to mention the fact that your clients negotiate discounts, etc. often and only end up paying 75% of that. |
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Date: July 12th, 2024 11:24 PM Author: talented tripping forum sound barrier So how much did he get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47836143) |
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Date: July 13th, 2024 3:51 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad He didn’t get the final order yet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47837697) |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 12:42 AM Author: talented tripping forum sound barrier You said no multiplier above. Was part decided or telegraphed at the hearing but not everything? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47840572) |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 2:13 AM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad He’s a former staTTTE superior court judge. Even when these types becum federal judges, they keep issuing “tentative” orders. His tentative said no multiplier, but I came back hard on rates at the hearing. He’s a savvy guy though, so I expect he’ll tailor his final order to avoid the errors I identified, but end with the same result.
The smart move in these circumstances is just to say “we disagree with the tentative,” without telling them where they fucked up. But he issued his tentative only 25 mins before the hearing, so I fucked up by being a defensive bitchboi and told him what I disagreed with. Probably cost myself $1m minimum. One wrong move is real. |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 11:36 AM Author: talented tripping forum sound barrier I don't practice in California except for every few years when I appear pro hac vice to enforce a judgment or something minor like that. I had completely forgotten about the tentative ruling practice they have there.
Good luck getting the big bucks. |
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Date: July 13th, 2024 3:55 PM Author: umber stubborn queen of the night EPAH, do you ever come across lolyers from Davis Wright Tremaine? they're trying to recruit me, no diddy. i understand they have a strong presence on the west coast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47837703) |
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Date: July 13th, 2024 6:54 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Yeah we have an RPA case against them (back in court after beating them in AAA arbitration on the arbitrability of our RPA claims).
In my experience so far these are straight shooters — not like the liars and fraud$ who predominate at GDC and Quinn. |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 11:44 AM Author: umber stubborn queen of the night cool ty. firm seems solid. they're in that weird nether-world between BIGLAW and midlaw. they're in the v100 and full service and i guess technically have a national presence, but they don't pay market to first years. i was curious what the deal was with them bc it's a crapshoot with those stats. such a firm can be really good, or a shithouse.
we'll see what unfolds. i doubt i'll leave bc i'm equity at my current firm and make high 400s/500. i know for a fact DWT won't take me as equity and i don't see them offering me more money, at least not enough for me to make a change. i doubt anyone here gives a fuck about any of this so not sure why i'm rambling, sorry. |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 3:31 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Oh shit did I RC pwn? I was talking about Davis Polk. But yeah, DWT often represents our enemy Costco (we haven’t sued them, but always subpoena them to find out the details of the sweetheart pricing they get. Need to sue them at some point. Head of the snake and all that.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47843285) |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 4:42 PM Author: Fishy Rambunctious Library what types of claims do you assert for these pricing issues? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47843604) |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:43 AM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad 15 USC 13(a) and (d) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47845257) |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 1:20 PM Author: Fishy Rambunctious Library Doesn’t California have really oppressive pricing regulations, bars on below cost pricing and the like? UPA section 17000 etc? Ever assert those? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47846953) |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 1:36 PM Author: Vivacious cyan telephone chad Yeah, we almost always do. In fact this case appears to be the first plaintiff-side 17045 jury verdict in the 60-year history of the statute.
With that degree of "novelty" and the fact it was on a contingency basis, it's an abuse of discretion to deny us a multiplier. |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 1:50 PM Author: Fishy Rambunctious Library 180
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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:02 AM Author: umber stubborn queen of the night yea bra, was talking about DWT. the doods i've talked to there seem chill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47845148) |
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Date: July 14th, 2024 3:51 PM Author: Fishy Rambunctious Library They aren’t close to biglaw in terms of compensation as far as I know.
Practice area/region? |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:07 AM Author: umber stubborn queen of the night L&E/DC
from what i can tell, they pay first years in DC and LA $190k, and for some reason $200k in NYC and SF (odd because firms usually pay the same in all "first tier" cities). that isn't THAT far below 215 or whatever biglaw starts at.
that said, it's entirely possible that pay for midlevels and above isn't all that close to biglaw scale.
i'm really not inclined to move bc i just moved last year and i'm gonna look like a job hopper if i do it again but you never know. |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 1:29 PM Author: Fishy Rambunctious Library You 100 percent cannot use first year salaries in this context to correlate biglaw pay scale for more senior attorneys. It is quite typical for these midlaw firms to compress salaries at the more senior levels and I know that DWT does that for a fact. They are not paying 7th years 500k, not even non-equity partners get this much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47847001) |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 5:28 PM Author: umber stubborn queen of the night yea, that isn't surprising. if that is true re nonequity partners, then that rules the firm out for me. i'm equity and should make close to 500k this year. their traditional labor team seems pretty cool though (whereas I am the entire labor practice at my firm).
BTW i was at baker hostetler, which i think everyone would agree is biglaw, and they do the same shit re compression. they shouldn't be considered biglaw tbh. |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 7:53 PM Author: Fishy Rambunctious Library Didn’t Spaceporn ruin your life? How are you still employed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47849312) |
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Date: July 15th, 2024 7:57 PM Author: umber stubborn queen of the night by the grace of god i convinced a firm to take me. i fucked with sp and found out. i found out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5544225&forum_id=2...id#47849331) |