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seems like turning point of GoT going to shit was Tywin death

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Wild point jap
  07/20/25
Tyrion’s character went to shit after that. To be ...
Overrated Mexican
  07/20/25
there was another book after. Tywin dies near the end of 4 I...
Wild point jap
  07/20/25
that was the high point I guess more or less, but of course ...
spruce razzle hell
  07/20/25
i think he wrote himself into dead end tho
exciting garnet garrison
  07/20/25
that's the common sentiment but I think it went to shit in t...
Wild point jap
  07/20/25
if he had wrapped it up with a storm of swords it probably c...
spruce razzle hell
  07/20/25
Name a fantasy work with a good ending
Transparent circlehead
  07/20/25
lotr
spruce razzle hell
  07/20/25
unless you mean writing quality-wise and then idk
Brilliant Motley Water Buffalo
  07/20/25
i thought everyone died in edgar allan poe stories
exciting garnet garrison
  07/20/25
yeah I meant writing quality Similar arc with Expedition ...
Wild point jap
  07/20/25
lol what? Expedition 33 had one of the most satisfying arc ...
Impressive bateful azn
  07/20/25
SPOILERS
Wild point jap
  07/20/25
Show was trash from the first frame
mewling gas station
  07/20/25


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Date: July 20th, 2025 2:44 AM
Author: Wild point jap



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Overrated Mexican

Tyrion’s character went to shit after that.

To be fair, isn’t that about when the books stopped? I think the show was started with the expectation that lazy GRRM would have the books finished before the later seasons were filmed.

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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:02 AM
Author: Wild point jap

there was another book after. Tywin dies near the end of 4 I believe

I did not get past the first few chapters of the next book



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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:08 AM
Author: spruce razzle hell

that was the high point I guess more or less, but of course the actual problem was that the second the books ran out the writers were retards

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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: exciting garnet garrison

i think he wrote himself into dead end tho

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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:26 AM
Author: Wild point jap

that's the common sentiment but I think it went to shit in the books as well. it's sadly more akin to a Young and the Restless soap opera than some grand fantasy series like LotR. we should be ashamed for ever thinking it was profound or worthy of analysis

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Date: July 20th, 2025 3:35 AM
Author: spruce razzle hell

if he had wrapped it up with a storm of swords it probably could have been close to that, but yeah he did write himself into a corner with too much shit going on

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Date: July 20th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Transparent circlehead

Name a fantasy work with a good ending

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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: spruce razzle hell

lotr

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Date: July 20th, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: Brilliant Motley Water Buffalo
Subject: unless you mean writing quality-wise and then idk

It was Robert's death. GRRM loves gothic era horror

Everything that comes after is the result of the result of so many sacred laws being broken so quickly. Most of everyone involved is dead or severely maimed by the end of the show/books (i guess on the latter). Hell itself breaks open on the population of Westeros after the mandate of heaven isn't just "lost" but actively trampled on by a bunch of amoral schemers and plotters---including some within his own court and family--- with no respect for the former king or why he was the way that he was and why it was natural for it to be that way

The only real "good guy" claimants are the Baratheons (sanguine Blood of Kings) and the Starks (enforcers of the sacred laws) and maybe Aegon II and every other major family deigning on the sharp iron porcupine in the capital gets decimated in oft ironic and poetic Poe-esque tales and vignettes of cosmic revenge

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Date: July 20th, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: exciting garnet garrison

i thought everyone died in edgar allan poe stories

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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: Wild point jap

yeah I meant writing quality

Similar arc with Expedition 33 where it starts out very strong and then becomes obvious the writers don't have a cogent wrap-up planned and just start throwing plot shit at the wall

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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: Impressive bateful azn

lol what? Expedition 33 had one of the most satisfying arc and endings of any narrative media.

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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: Wild point jap
Subject: SPOILERS

if you keep disagreeing with me in every thread we will need to meet up and fight

Act3: The stoic father putting a leash on the ephemeral whims of his female family members is based and CR, but overall the story lost most of its gravitas once u realize it's a big simulation and all of the emotion surrounding the gomage etc was pointless

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Date: July 20th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: mewling gas station

Show was trash from the first frame

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