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gunneratttt, this Breaking Points debate encapsulates our Epstein arguments
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Date: July 20th, 2025 2:54 PM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) https://youtu.be/ZsJa2QcEHRI
Saager says everything I have been saying. You are Michael Tracy. Hth |
Date: July 21st, 2025 9:35 AM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) i stopped watching breaking points years ago because their legal takes were so bad (re: factually incorrect) that i couldn't trust anything else they said. i try to avoid gell-mann amnesia.
im not suprised that saagar endorses the joe rogan 100 iq "isth SO OBVIOUS" conspiracy and that you're convinced to the point of certainty. |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:12 AM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) You might like Michael Ttacy's arguments then. His main point is that Virginia Giuffre was a serial liar who admitted she never got raeped by Dershowitz after a decade of saying that he did and therefore he's 100% certain that there was never a pedo ring and girls were never pimped to Clinton or any elites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118627) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:20 AM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) i definitely think he exploited a lot of young women, some underage, and that some elites partook. not much different than the playboy mansion, rock groupies, porn, etc. that were all common pre-#metoo.
i just don't think that it was a government-sponsored honey pot. |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:43 AM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) Maybe it wasn't. We don't know. Acosta never got his computers and dropped the subpoena with the NPA. The government never possessed his treasure trove from his peak era of activity. So we'll never know.
Do you think Clinton ever got a massage from a teen during his 26 flights on the Lolita Express? |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:50 AM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) considering clintons long documented history of philandering i would be absolute shocked if he didn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118725) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:51 AM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) Do you buy Acosta's line that he felt some justice was better than no justice given that Epstein had fled to Israel and could not be extradited so he gave the guy work release for a year in a case with 40 victims? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118729) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:00 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) you keep repeating that but it never came up when i looked into it at the time and as far as i can tell its just something conspiracy theorists repeat. maybe im wrong, what's your best source for epstein fleeing to israel and acostas NPA being motivated by not being able to get to epstein there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118758) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:07 PM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) There are conflicting sources but it says that he moved his assets to Israel and 'spent time there' while he was being prosecuted. I guess there's no hard evidence that he was exactly there while Dersh and Ken Starr was negotiating his sentencing. But he was spending time there around that time. So I don't know. Maybe it was unrelated.
Acosta defended himself on the record many times saying the NPA was motivated by achieving some justice rather than none. His words imo |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:13 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) right, so no source and pure speculation that he was hiding because of non-extradition. doesn't the fact he was only there "some of the time" eviscerate that argument?
AGs say this whenever they are accused of giving people a deal people think is too good. sex crimes are hard to prove. if they offered diddy a plea people would have been irate and he got off.
i think acostas NPA was primarily motivated by epstein being a politically connected and powerful guy. but that happens everyday. whyd it take so long to prosecute the coz? or weinstein? |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:20 PM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) Yeah it's possible. I think local laws enforcement though we're devastated, they felt like they had 40 victims willing to testify. Seems like a lot bigger evidence than the diddy trial which had one star witness everyone quickly realized was actually a co-conspirator. The local law enforcement were devastated by the deal. They thought they had a lot more ammunition if it went to trial. I don't get this protecting rich and powerful people thing. It seems goofy. You have 40 victims in sworn affidavits and you just go, well he knows the Clintons so let's not bust his balls?
The one element of this case everyone seems to agree on even if they are 0% tinfoil hat is that Acosta offered this guy the moon. Doesn't make any sense. |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:40 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) its bizarre how you're repeated proven factually wrong or ignorant of various aspects of this but never falter on your conclusion. this is a conspiratorial mindset.
no, acostas offer doesn't seem unusual and "makes sense" perfectly in the context. young women are frequently sexually exploited, but proving the exploiter acted criminally can be very difficult. that's why serial exploiters get away with it. the whole fucking point of #metoo was bringing attention to this. in the vast majority of these cases the women have some level of "unclean hands" that makes the case hard to prosecute. especially in the 2000s where people were less receptive to it. these women did get on the plane and get paid.
it "doesn't make any sense" because you've already come to a conclusion and doing post hoc rationalization to prove it. nevermind the fact you have no personal experience when it comes to prosecution offers. never mind the fact there aren't leagues of prosecutors stepping up saying it doesn't make sense. nevermind no one in the DOJ blew a whistle, even after acosta resigned and it would be advantageous for someone to.
it "doesn't make sense" only because you've reached a conclusion and no matter how many "fell for it again" awards you rack up you won't reconsider it. |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:23 AM Author: michael doodikoff I always liked Saager (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118650) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:41 AM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) Me too. He is the embodiment of Millennial conservatism. Like Trump shit but without the Boomer nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118700) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:47 AM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) he's great and so is krystal ball (although sadly she's experiencing rapid white woman aging these days). i love the bipartisan approach. but the content is often very poor and they often shoehorn "it's the rich elites" angle when one isn't there.
i probably agree with 95%+ of saagars political positions. |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:49 AM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) Krystal is insane and a prototypical bird brain filling the world with emotional nonsense. She would lead society off a cliff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118722) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 11:54 AM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) i found her very reasonable and even-keeled. haven't watched her in years now though. i bought whatever top-tier subscription they had when they launched. i really love the concept but they are not very well researched. ive got no problems with krystals disposition. she rarely seemed overly emotional (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118737) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:02 PM Author: Tort Reform (turbofag) Well, agree to disagree. It's not the best political show of all time but they at least do some left-right debate stuff from the Millennial perspective. They are a ratings juggernaut so maybe worth tuning in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5752683&forum_id=2...id.#49118769) |
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Date: July 21st, 2025 12:05 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) which is exactly why i was a founding member.
the ratings aren't any indicate of their trustworthiness, in fact these days that often indicates the opposite. |