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Amethyst Library
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
blue pozpig pocket flask
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
blue pozpig pocket flask
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Heady Well-lubricated Background Story Rehab
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
canary roast beef coffee pot
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
insecure soul-stirring casino
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
180 Demanding Party Of The First Part Shitlib
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Titillating cruise ship coldplay fan
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Titillating cruise ship coldplay fan
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Titillating cruise ship coldplay fan
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Duck-like lascivious toaster
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Green Location
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Elite market
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
insecure soul-stirring casino
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Amethyst Library
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
exhilarant medicated stage halford
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
laughsome church
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
red son of senegal stead
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Amethyst Library
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
razzle saffron mad-dog skullcap
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/26/25
...
Trip juggernaut
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
carmine offensive garrison fortuitous meteor
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Amber Genital Piercing
  06/26/25
...
coiffed macaca abode
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Metal maize lodge sex offender
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
translucent deep puppy
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Light nofapping new version
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
translucent deep puppy
  06/27/25
How was penn?
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
insecure soul-stirring casino
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
180 Demanding Party Of The First Part Shitlib
  06/27/25
...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Overrated talented mother hall
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
translucent deep puppy
  06/27/25
...
Crusty mood
  06/27/25
...
hot unhinged senate idea he suggested
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Light nofapping new version
  06/27/25
How is STB?
180 Demanding Party Of The First Part Shitlib
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Gay Trailer Park
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
insecure soul-stirring casino
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Amethyst Library

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: blue pozpig pocket flask

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: blue pozpig pocket flask

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Heady Well-lubricated Background Story Rehab

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: canary roast beef coffee pot

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: insecure soul-stirring casino

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: 180 Demanding Party Of The First Part Shitlib

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Titillating cruise ship coldplay fan

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Titillating cruise ship coldplay fan

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Titillating cruise ship coldplay fan

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Duck-like lascivious toaster

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Green Location

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Elite market

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: insecure soul-stirring casino

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Amethyst Library

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: exhilarant medicated stage halford

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: laughsome church

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: red son of senegal stead

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Amethyst Library

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: razzle saffron mad-dog skullcap

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Trip juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: carmine offensive garrison fortuitous meteor

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Amber Genital Piercing

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: coiffed macaca abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Metal maize lodge sex offender

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: translucent deep puppy

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Light nofapping new version

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: translucent deep puppy

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: insecure soul-stirring casino

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: 180 Demanding Party Of The First Part Shitlib

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Overrated talented mother hall

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: translucent deep puppy

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Crusty mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: hot unhinged senate idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Light nofapping new version

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: 180 Demanding Party Of The First Part Shitlib

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Gay Trailer Park

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: insecure soul-stirring casino

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: carmine offensive garrison fortuitous meteor

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: emerald step-uncle's house queen of the night



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: insecure soul-stirring casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053817)