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Is Cavan Sullivan the white Freddy Adu.
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Date: June 25th, 2024 6:12 PM Author: dat snoot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47777249) |
Date: June 26th, 2024 9:46 AM Author: dat snoot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47778696) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:00 AM Author: Wang Hernandez He’ll probably at least be a decent pro so no thy means he is better than Adu.
Shouldn’t have signed for city tho. |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:27 AM Author: dat snoot why is city a bad move? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47778825) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 11:14 AM Author: Wang Hernandez too much talent and too difficult for a young player to break in. Cole Palmer is one of the best players in the EPL and even he had to move to Chelsea. Grealish still doesn’t play very much despite being very talented. Better to join a team like BVB that specializes in young talent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47779039) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 11:53 AM Author: dat snoot He's still only 14 and couldn't play for city until he's 18. He's going to stay at Philly unless he's loaned out elsewhere in Europe that would allow him to play before turning 18. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47779196) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 1:16 PM Author: Wang Hernandez Yes, I know all of that. And when he’s 18 he almost certainly won’t get playing time with city (or when he’s 22). Instead he will ride the loan carousel which will be detrimental to his development. It would be much better for him to join a solid German team that will groom him for the first team immediately (like what Pulisic and Weston did). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47779526) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 1:41 PM Author: The Soo CR SUMMER JUGGERNAUT Seems he should ggo to XO BSC YOUNG BOYS if he wants to get GROOMED (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47779599) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 4:20 PM Author: dat snoot any idea what kind of duration there would be if city exercises its transfer rights when he turns 18? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47780090) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 6:57 PM Author: Wang Hernandez Duration for what? The loan? Likely he would be on loan until City decide he is good enough to play for them (unlikely to happen) or they think they can get ROI on the transfer (more likely). 2-3 years almost certainly before either action is triggered.
If he appears to have potential, they will sign him to a new contract after 1 year with increased pay. |
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Date: June 27th, 2024 1:08 PM Author: dat snoot So right now he's under contract with the Union. When he turns 18, City has the transfer right at $5M. If they exercise the transfer and pay the $5M, presumably, they sign him to a contract for a term of years. I'm curious what that term would be.
So if City isn't a good fit or it doesn't look like he's going to break through to the first team or get significant playing time, how long before he can switch clubs? |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 1:21 PM Author: Sean South of Garryowen Explain loaning out players in soccer. No, I don't want to google it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47779539) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 1:38 PM Author: Wang Hernandez The basic principle is that if a player is not considered good enough for the team they are contracted to play for, they can loan the player out for one season to another team where he is expected to play. That team will typically pay a portion of his salary for that season.
The player is typically loaned to a team with Les talent, often in a lesser league, where he is expected to contribute.
This sometimes happens to very talented young players who need more seasoning. It also happens to dudes who just aren’t good enough for their main squad. The benefit is the loaning team won’t pay full salary and it might let the player demonstrate whatever value he may have elsewhere so they can sell him and get some value back.
Sometimes it can be very productive for a young player, but in my opinion with the big English teams it can often turn into serial loans season after season where the player has no true “home.” And sometimes the club that receives a player on loan won’t be incentivized to actually help improve him because they only have him for one season so he will actually not play much unless he can contribute immediately.
The English teams will sometimes do this as a business model. Buy a young player for 10 million, loan him for a couple seasons, then try and sell him for 20. It works out sometimes but it often messes with the players development. See Gabriel Slolina right now. |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 1:56 PM Author: Sean South of Garryowen So it is sort of like sending a player down to the minors in baseball. I assume they don't want to cut the player because then they are on the hook for remainder of contract and, besides, he might actually become better with playing time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47779653) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 2:09 PM Author: Wang Hernandez a little bit except not r completely an EPL player can often be loaned to another team in the EPL, or a team in a Germany or Spain or Italy that is still mostly competitive generally with EPL teams.
There’s no single “major” league in soccer. There’s a matrix of many leagues and levels of teams within those leagues with varying quality. Although the EPL is considered the best top to bottom they often still lose to teams from other leagues. And Real Madrid is probably better than any of the EPL teams right now.
Sometimes you might loan a guy simply because the current coach doesn’t like him but another team of almost similair quality sees his value or skills.
Or a Spanish guy gets signed with an English team but misses home and wants back.
There are all sorts of reasons why players get loaned out.
The closest thing to a true minor league would be the youth squads I guess. Or maybe reserve teams if those still exist. |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:04 AM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,..................... Adu is still only 17. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47778738) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:27 AM Author: dat snoot cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47778823) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 10:30 AM Author: Ass Sunstein If Adu is the Michael Jordan of Soccer, then Cavan is the LeBron. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47778834) |
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Date: June 26th, 2024 11:29 AM Author: dat snoot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47779106) |
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Date: June 27th, 2024 1:32 PM Author: jacked up on all kinds of drugs Absolutely devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47782863) |
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Date: June 27th, 2024 1:42 PM Author: rickpanama idk what's being discussed here, but it all sounds very weak, and gay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47782897) |
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Date: June 27th, 2024 1:56 PM Author: Florida Surgeon General Joseph A. Ladapo he's not white (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5545303&forum_id=2...id.#47782953) |