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Why is rushing considered a less legitimate way to win than passing?
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:29 AM Author: "'''''"'''"""''''" Look at Michigan’s win over USC. People are like “yeah, but, they did it by rushing.” If they had won by passing no one would be questioning it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137051) |
Date: September 27th, 2024 10:32 AM A win is a win, the point of the critique is that a team that can't pass has a lot less margin for error on the defensive side. Running by its nature doesn't stop the clock as much, which means running teams rarely score points quickly. So if they fall behind substantially (say 2-3 touchdowns) they have two choices and both of them are bad-- they can either run and chew up too much clock, probably not having enough time to catch up or they can switch to the pass which they're bad at, which probably will not work.
This is much less true of teams that are good at passing but bad at rushing-- if they want to switch to chewing up clock, it doesn't take any skill to run, run, run, punt and even one first down will get a new set of downs to chew up yet more clock.
Bringing this back to Michigan, they're frauds because if they fall behind they have no way to catch up. |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:37 AM Author: "'''''"'''"""''''" But they didn’t fall behind. They jumped out to a 14-0 lead over USC on two long rushing TDs and people still act like their win was fraud because it was based on rushing yards and rushing TDs instead of passing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137075) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:49 AM Criticizing Michigan is more about projecting their ability to win future games. A win is a win in the stat books, how you get there matters a lot in evaluating how good your team actually is. Michigan will fall behind and get fucked when faced with a better team, book it done. They will get fucked by at least Oregon and Ohio State, but possibly more than that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137103) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:51 AM Author: "'''''"'''"""''''" USC was ranked #11 and everyone thought Michigan would get blown out by USC. How’d that work out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137108) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:53 AM Are you being paid to troll for Michigan or are you being this obtuse for free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137112) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:06 AM Author: "'''''"'''"""''''" What’s wrong with winning by rushing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137142) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:23 AM Nothing is wrong with winning by rushing. But a team that can't pass, which Michigan seemingly can't, has severe disadvantages for reasons that have already been explained to you. A non-passing team is not a realistic candidate for a championship in the modern era. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137195) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:27 AM Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) why not both? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137201) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:03 AM Author: Darnell the spread at kickoff was USC by 4.5 points. most observers thought there were two real possibilities: - usc has a lot of success passing and wins by a lot - in a close, hard-fought game, usc wins by a little
turns out it was a close game but michigan won by a little |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:08 AM Author: Darnell to answer your question, people doubt michigan because they don't seem to be able to pass AT ALL. the pass protection is weak, the receivers aren't getting open, and the current qb has a very limited ability to read a defense.
last year michigan could pass (and do it really well) but chose to be conservative and chew clock on offense by running a lot. no one doubted that team. |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:16 AM Author: "'''''"'''"""''''" And yet they still beat #11 USC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137166) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:19 AM Author: potluck not exactly what you’re asking but imo for the college game some of the disapproval is that athletic teams with top recruits have a natural advantage in the trenches and can win with a run game that isn’t even good, it just works because the O line can create multiple huge holes without any sophisticated scheming or anything. you end up with runners running all over lesser competition and it’s just kind of shitty to watch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137176) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:21 AM Author: "'''''"'''"""''''" Is #11 USC considered “lesser competition” though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137184) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:25 AM Author: potluck if you’re only interested in discussing one game despite the generalization in your title, that’s fine. I’m saying this issue, which has been pronounced for years in CFB, has led to some generalized distaste for run-run-run teams at the top (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602186&forum_id=2...id.#48137197) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:27 AM Author: Darnell wtf are you trying to get at? usc's defense was abysmal the last few years but has taken some significant steps forward this year. they're still not great and mistake prone. michigan was one of their worst match ups of the year and they played pretty well in a tough environment. usc could still run the table.
michigan's win still isn't that impressive |