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WSJ: The Colleges Falling Behind on Black Student Enrollment

This is a tragedy, we need to find better ways to get dumb b...
irradiated prole
  09/09/24
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Fragrant Pearl Theater Stage
  09/09/24
>He joined Chocolate City EPAH sprinting to cambridge ...
wonderful shrine faggotry
  09/09/24
Leaders of those institutions argue that diversity helps al...
Spectacular casino french chef
  09/09/24
perhaps TP Nah, it's just magic dirt!
Bat shit crazy crackhouse useless brakes
  09/09/24
Hey libs you can't have both mass immigration and AA and car...
Alcoholic Fiercely-loyal Keepsake Machete Public Bath
  09/09/24
“Richard Oti, an 18-year-old Black student who moved t...
deep lettuce dog poop
  09/09/24
member of a 2% minority class here. i was majority at a top ...
wonderful shrine faggotry
  09/09/24
twist: successfully deducing that outcome is an actual sign ...
deep lettuce dog poop
  09/09/24
What top ls is majority jewish?
Ocher church building elastic band
  09/09/24
which isn't?
wonderful shrine faggotry
  09/09/24
Cornell isn't a "top law school"
Passionate Sadistic Twinkling Uncleanness Market
  09/09/24
ive never said where i attended
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  09/10/24
LOL at them finding a Ghanan to ask about this. These mother...
Bat shit crazy crackhouse useless brakes
  09/09/24
not Amherst! That bastion of black empowerment!
glassy jap personal credit line
  09/09/24
BTW, if diversity is ARE STRENGTH, why are HBCU's not on equ...
Bat shit crazy crackhouse useless brakes
  09/09/24
"Oti is now one of 55 Black students in a class of more...
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  09/09/24
"Why all deez white devils at college?" *signs up...
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  09/09/24
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irradiated prole
  09/09/24
Ghanians, Nigerians, welcome to the Dindu Thunderdome!
claret concupiscible cruise ship sandwich
  09/09/24
Wonder if there's a wigger contingent there.
curious garrison
  09/09/24
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  09/10/24


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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:08 PM
Author: irradiated prole

This is a tragedy, we need to find better ways to get dumb black students into elite universities.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/the-colleges-falling-behind-on-black-student-enrollment-f3728f99?mod=hp_lead_pos5

Diversity is down at some of the nation’s most selective colleges this fall.

The share of Black students entering Amherst College fell to 3%, from 11% last school year. At the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where students could identify themselves racially in more than one category, the percentage dropped to 7.8% from 10.5%. And at Brown University, the share of first-year domestic students who are Black fell to 9%, from 15%.

The Wall Street Journal examined first-year classes at more than 20 colleges to see how class makeup is starting to change after last summer’s Supreme Court ruling barring schools from explicitly considering race in their admissions decisions. While some schools reported steady numbers, several posted sharp declines among racial minorities, including Black students in particular.

Leaders of those institutions, a group that includes Washington University in St. Louis and some Ivy League schools, are now trying to figure out why their numbers shook out the way they did. They argue that diversity helps all students encounter new ideas and prepares them to succeed in a multicultural society. They also say previous growth didn’t come at the cost of academic talent.

Richard Oti, an 18-year-old Black student who moved to Northern Virginia from Ghana when he was 1, always knew he would be a minority at any highly selective college.

When he enrolled at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, he clung to a statistic that showed 15% of last year’s MIT freshman class was Black, including students who identify as multiracial. This year, it is 5%.

“The only reason that was going to change was if students like me actually attend there,” said Oti, a first-year student who plans to study computer science, economics and data science with a focus on improving sustainable agriculture.

Oti is now one of 55 Black students in a class of more than 1,100, and described a sense of shock. He joined Chocolate City, a housing option for students who identify with Black and urban culture, but said he can’t come close to replicating that feeling of community in his classrooms.

His fear, one shared by admissions directors nationwide, is that current high-school seniors will see some of these numbers and shy away from applying, further sinking Black enrollment.

Searching for patterns

Not every college is experiencing drastic enrollment declines among Black students. Schools can report their figures in a number of ways, and might not be directly comparable to one another, but the Journal looked at direct year-over-year trends for each institution.

Yale University’s first-year class remained stable for African-American and Hispanic students, though Asian-American enrollment fell to 24% from 30%. (International students are counted in a separate category at most schools.)

At Bates College, 32% of the first-year class are U.S. students of color, after hovering between 27% and 29% for the past five years. The school reported an increase in the share of Black and Hispanic students specifically.

Figuring out why some schools fared better than others at maintaining minority enrollment is a challenge, say admissions officers and analysts.

Given the botched rollout of the new federal financial-aid application last winter, it is hard for schools to answer, “Is it just a fluke year, or is there something that’s fundamentally wrong with the way our process is working?” said Dominique Baker, an associate professor of education and public policy at the University of Delaware.

Baker and others who study college access expect schools to pore over the numbers, marketing material, college-fair attendance and how they describe diversity initiatives on campus. She said some might want to examine binding early-decision admission programs, as well as preferential treatment for legacy applicants—steps that many schools say they aren’t yet willing to take.

Several of the nation’s most selective public and private colleges haven’t yet reported the demographic breakdown of their incoming classes. And some are giving broader descriptions, such as what percentage of the class is nonwhite. Researchers and college leaders warn against drawing too many conclusions from a single year of results.

After the Supreme Court decision, many applicants said they were concerned about how welcome they would feel at certain schools and struggled with how much to reveal about themselves in essays or basic demographic questions.

Often they chose to say less. At Washington University in St. Louis, the share of first-year students whose race was unknown increased to 5% from 1%. And at Tufts University, the share of domestic students who didn’t disclose their race in applications more than doubled, to 6.7%.

Rising momentum

Admissions officers have been working for years to cast a wider net for prospective students. But data from the Common App—which is used by more than 1,000 schools, including nearly all of the nation’s most selective ones—shows the share of Latino and Black students with high grade-point averages or high standardized test scores applying to at least one very selective college has been declining in recent years.

Schools’ efforts to also beef up financial-aid packages didn’t necessarily equate to higher, or even steadier, Black enrollment last year.

At Washington University in St. Louis, for example, the share of first-year students getting aid packages rose to 48% from 42% last year, with an average award of nearly $72,000. Still, enrollment among students who identified as Black fell to 8% from 12%, and most other populations remained within a percentage point of last year.

The school has already committed to adding admissions staff in Atlanta, as well as Texas and its own backyard of St. Louis, said Ronné Turner, vice provost for admissions and financial aid, aiming to target more schools and community-based organizations. It is also investing in additional outreach programs for rural students.

Meanwhile, Duke University expanded its outreach to high schools in the Carolinas, touting a more generous financial-aid program. It also hosted sessions where faculty and current students called newly admitted students, and held family dinners for first-generation and low-income students.

Duke students are allowed to check off more than one box for demographic classifications. The share of Black and Hispanic students edged up to 13% and 14%, respectively, while white students fell to 52% from 53%. Asian-American enrollment dropped to 29% from 35%.

Last fall, the California Institute of Technology roughly doubled the size of the program that flies prospective students who are underrepresented in science and math fields to campus for a three-day visit. The school has also expanded its partnership with QuestBridge, which matches high-achieving, low-income students with partner colleges.

Three weeks before classes start, the student makeup at Caltech looks roughly the same as it did last year, said Ashley Pallie, who runs undergraduate admissions at the school. Last fall, 10.5% of the class was Hispanic, 39.5% Asian-American, 21.1% white and 6.8% multiracial. Just over 4% identified as Black; in an entering class of 266, that is 11 students.

Black enrollment barely broke 2% of the first-year class until a few years ago.

Pallie said she appreciates the school’s modest progress, but “sustaining that over the next five to 10 years is a pretty significant undertaking.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067873)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:19 PM
Author: Fragrant Pearl Theater Stage

ChatGPT: "The opinion you've shared expresses concern about declining diversity at selective colleges but does so in a problematic and offensive manner. The framing of the issue—suggesting that the decline is due to the need to "get dumb Black students into elite universities"—is both disrespectful and inaccurate."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067899)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:22 PM
Author: wonderful shrine faggotry

>He joined Chocolate City

EPAH sprinting to cambridge ma

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067914)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: Spectacular casino french chef

Leaders of those institutions

argue that diversity helps all students encounter new ideas and prepares them to succeed in a multicultural society

Oti

joined Chocolate City, a housing option for students who identify with Black and urban culture

but said he can’t come close to replicating that feeling of community in his classrooms.

well libs, perhaps it's far better for minorities to feel uncomfortable while in college. perhaps minorities are the ones who need to be exposed to diversity, not the other way around. perhaps its minorities who wish to succeed in culture who need to be exposed to the 'successful' or at least prevalent culture. perhaps it's not better to coddle minorities. perhaps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067941)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 9:31 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy crackhouse useless brakes

perhaps TP

Nah, it's just magic dirt!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48068102)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:24 PM
Author: Alcoholic Fiercely-loyal Keepsake Machete Public Bath

Hey libs you can't have both mass immigration and AA and carve outs for blacks HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067920)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:29 PM
Author: deep lettuce dog poop

“Richard Oti, an 18-year-old Black student who moved to Northern Virginia from Ghana when he was 1, always knew he would be a minority at any highly selective college.”

i’m glad someone ostensibly suited for a highly selective college and a member of a 12% minority class can successfully deduce that he would remain a minority at any institution that at all reflected that national average.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067931)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:30 PM
Author: wonderful shrine faggotry

member of a 2% minority class here. i was majority at a top LS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067933)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: deep lettuce dog poop

twist: successfully deducing that outcome is an actual sign of high iq.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067937)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: Ocher church building elastic band

What top ls is majority jewish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48068053)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: wonderful shrine faggotry

which isn't?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48068286)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 10:43 PM
Author: Passionate Sadistic Twinkling Uncleanness Market

Cornell isn't a "top law school"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48068413)



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Date: September 10th, 2024 10:13 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


ive never said where i attended

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48069488)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy crackhouse useless brakes

LOL at them finding a Ghanan to ask about this. These motherfuckers who CHOOSE to immigrate here should not get AA under any circumstances. If this country is so irreparably racist, you should stay your ass back in Ghana.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067944)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: glassy jap personal credit line

not Amherst! That bastion of black empowerment!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067945)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy crackhouse useless brakes

BTW, if diversity is ARE STRENGTH, why are HBCU's not on equal footing with elite schools that are race blind, like Berkeley (which ended up being highly Asian)? Very perplexing! One would think with their incredible academic strength and rigor, they would find a way to dominate rankings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067953)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:39 PM
Author: cracking chest-beating spot

"Oti is now one of 55 Black students in a class of more than 1,100, and described a sense of shock. He joined Chocolate City, a housing option for students who identify with Black and urban culture, but said he can’t come close to replicating that feeling of community in his classrooms."

lmao @ there being a housing option for "BLACK AND URBAN CULTURE" enthusiasts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48067958)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 8:59 PM
Author: glassy jap personal credit line

"Why all deez white devils at college?"

*signs up for intro to statistics*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48068005)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 9:19 PM
Author: irradiated prole



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Date: September 9th, 2024 9:25 PM
Author: claret concupiscible cruise ship sandwich

Ghanians, Nigerians, welcome to the Dindu Thunderdome!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48068080)



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Date: September 9th, 2024 11:02 PM
Author: curious garrison

Wonder if there's a wigger contingent there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48068490)



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Date: September 10th, 2024 10:15 AM
Author: Arschbacken (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp)

"unfortunately, the local college is falling behind on black student enrolment", confessed the realtor with a wink and a grin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5591555&forum_id=2...id.#48069500)