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I've just completely solved the healthcare industry in America

De-couple health insurance from healthcare. Health insura...
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/15/25
thought when i clicked it would just be OP listing off vario...
disrespectful yapping electric furnace
  01/15/25
thought he'd just recommend 20 more Luigi Mangione's
grizzly alcoholic pistol
  01/15/25
how is the OP not one sentence: "deport all brown peopl...
White adventurous trailer park
  01/15/25
Because that would mean deporting like a third of the doctor...
Plum Rehab Death Wish
  01/15/25
*farts out glob of GRIDS infected cum*
disrespectful yapping electric furnace
  01/15/25
Sounds like you need to go to the doctor
Plum Rehab Death Wish
  01/15/25
youre a retarded third world faggot kike
disrespectful yapping electric furnace
  01/15/25
I’m none of those things. I suspect you’re proj...
Plum Rehab Death Wish
  01/15/25
you are solidily all 3 of those things
disrespectful yapping electric furnace
  01/15/25
(expert at counting)
Plum Rehab Death Wish
  01/15/25
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passionate brethren lodge
  01/16/25
none of those people are real "doctors" and they'r...
White adventurous trailer park
  01/15/25
This and also this retarded doesn't consider we'd also be de...
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/15/25
but without fob jeet doctors who is going to sell jew opiate...
disrespectful yapping electric furnace
  01/15/25
...
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/15/25
The problem is the AMA and the medical schools. They should...
Plum Rehab Death Wish
  01/15/25
the AMA and "limited slots" thing needs to be stra...
White adventurous trailer park
  01/15/25
nigger
sienna house feces
  01/15/25
You just described high deductible plans dipshit
Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness
  01/15/25
Correct which is what most people have since most people don...
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/15/25
poors should be forced to go to clinics inside walmart or co...
Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness
  01/16/25
profoundly retarded
Poppy Home
  01/15/25
Why?
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/15/25
Decoupling insurance from their relationships with providers...
Poppy Home
  01/15/25
You're forgetting that all the insurers fees are now removed...
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/15/25
ASO fees are a relatively small piece of the pie as far as h...
Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness
  01/16/25
What's the biggest problem then? Why is it so goddamn expens...
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/16/25
sickly proles have access to the exact same doctors as you (...
Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness
  01/16/25
How do you band limit poor people into cut rate care? I thin...
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/16/25
free market
Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness
  01/16/25
Now you're really just agreeing with me
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/16/25
r u 19?
passionate brethren lodge
  01/16/25
Yes
Magenta boyish theater stage background story
  01/16/25


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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

De-couple health insurance from healthcare.

Health insurance should just be a policy like car or home insurance. You don't 'get' anything from your policy. You don't get a PCP, you aren't entitled to any medication, you don't get anything. Zero. The only thing that policy covers is if they rack up a high enough bill, say it kicks in at 10k or something, you're covered for all health expenses up to the limit of the policy. Done. Health insurance is just insurance against a massive healthcare bill. A couple hundred bucks a month in case you get in some real trouble. Pool the risk. Most people never use it, a small number of people account for all the costs. This shit is extremely stable like other insurance premiums. No hidden costs, it's basically the same price for everyone, never goes up much.

Then when it comes to actual healthcare services give everyone a monthly allowance. Don't pay the insurers or the doctors. Pay people in an account that can only be touched for health stuff. Give everyone cash to spend if they get sick. This is way more cost effective and brings the free market back into play. People just have government savings that they can use when they get sick. 99% of cases never trigger the insurance policy. People can just spend their allotment on doctors and medication and if it ever goes tits up they have an insurance policy that kicks in automatically. Insurers can never deny you coverage, your policy just triggers the moment you go over a certain amount.

Easy, we can fire all the middle men but a small few who will just soberly collect policy money forever with no growth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556153)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: disrespectful yapping electric furnace

thought when i clicked it would just be OP listing off various groups he thinks should be murdered wholesale but no its this gay shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556158)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:07 PM
Author: grizzly alcoholic pistol

thought he'd just recommend 20 more Luigi Mangione's

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556162)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:10 PM
Author: White adventurous trailer park

how is the OP not one sentence: "deport all brown people"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556169)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Plum Rehab Death Wish

Because that would mean deporting like a third of the doctors in the country, and the scarcity of doctors created by strict medical licensing regimes in the U.S. is a primary cause of higher health care costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556188)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:18 PM
Author: disrespectful yapping electric furnace

*farts out glob of GRIDS infected cum*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556189)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:46 PM
Author: Plum Rehab Death Wish

Sounds like you need to go to the doctor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556216)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:48 PM
Author: disrespectful yapping electric furnace

youre a retarded third world faggot kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556220)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:58 PM
Author: Plum Rehab Death Wish

I’m none of those things. I suspect you’re projecting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556241)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: disrespectful yapping electric furnace

you are solidily all 3 of those things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556243)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 9:57 PM
Author: Plum Rehab Death Wish

(expert at counting)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556532)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: passionate brethren lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557439)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: White adventurous trailer park

none of those people are real "doctors" and they're actually a big part of the problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556193)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

This and also this retarded doesn't consider we'd also be deporting most of the patients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556194)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: disrespectful yapping electric furnace

but without fob jeet doctors who is going to sell jew opiates to American coal miners?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556212)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556237)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Plum Rehab Death Wish

The problem is the AMA and the medical schools. They should produce at least 5x as many doctors as they do and modernize their curriculum. Doctors are almost as obnoxiously stuck in their ways as lawyers, but in the case of doctors it actually matters for many reasons, most of all that they are 10x larger share of our GDP. Doctors are also even dumber as business people than lawyers are and miss out on making a shitton more money if they did this, adding 400% more doctors to meet demand and introduce more price competition, and structured it like law firms where the 20-something and 30-something have to grind themselves bald and paunchy and the 40-somethings and older just tell the youngs what to do and get paid 5x as much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556240)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: White adventurous trailer park

the AMA and "limited slots" thing needs to be straight up broken by the government and it's truly insane that it hasn't been

if regular people understood how it works there would be people luigi'ing these guys on a monthly basis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556289)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:12 PM
Author: sienna house feces

nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556176)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:46 PM
Author: Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness

You just described high deductible plans dipshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556215)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

Correct which is what most people have since most people don't ever use it.

But under my vision you would dramatically reduce the cost by firing the middle man. And then you would separate the bill for every day care so the free market would take over.

It's rent seeking middle men, consolidation, and a lack of free market factors that make the costs so high. These could all be brought into line by separating everything and introducing a race to the bottom of providers. When everything is wrapped into one wholesale and guaranteed you get insurers charging anything they want and providing as little as possible. It's a game of incentives and since ACA the profit motive has reigned supreme.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556235)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness

poors should be forced to go to clinics inside walmart or costcos run by shitskins and have their expenses covered. regular ppl should be able to go to actual doctors and get actual care and have high deductibles because a few thousand $ isn't going to break them and they value their health over a trip to myrtle beach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557268)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: Poppy Home

profoundly retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556323)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556328)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: Poppy Home

Decoupling insurance from their relationships with providers so providers can now charge whatever they want? No more negotiated rates to somewhat control price?

How much stipend you giving to people? They burn through that (even more quickly now that providers aren't limited in what they charge) and now 90% of America can't afford ANY healthcare since they have no savings and haven't hit deductible. People stop getting even preventative care.

So you wanna raise the stipend instead? Congrats you basically moving towards single payer.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556359)



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Date: January 15th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

You're forgetting that all the insurers fees are now removed AND people can choose basically any doctor because networks no longer exist. Doctors have to strive for patients because a small handful will have a stunning reputation and they will actually make more money because richmos will start paying them large sums.

While 90% of docs will be total unknowns with garbage degrees and no track record. They will have to cut rates much lower until they emerge as talents. And yes, AMA adding more doctors is necessary. But there will be a chop shop on every corner offering all the basics for $20 a visit with a line around the block like Costco. And this is way better for everyone. This lifts everything people don't need off the books and creates competitive pricing. It will be cheaper than Wendy's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48556447)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness

ASO fees are a relatively small piece of the pie as far as health care goes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557411)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

What's the biggest problem then? Why is it so goddamn expensive? I pay 100 a month for car insurance, a service I never use but would in the rare event of an accident. I pay 500 a month for health insurance, a service I literally never use. It's not the ASO fees? What's the problem? Pooling my risk with sickly proles? I'm paying for something here, just don't know what. And I have a high deductible so it feels to me like I'm uninsured since nearly everything isn't covered. I'd like to know where my 6 grand a year is going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557436)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness

sickly proles have access to the exact same doctors as you (i.e. - any one they want) and it drives up prices/reduces quality of care for everyone. they should be in limited but adequate cost controlled networks instead, whether it's walmart/costco like I said above or some kind of HMO/community based plan. everyone else should have coverage that will let them see any doc they want and will prevent them from going bankrupt if shit really hits the fan then pay out of pocket for regular expenses with an HSA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557462)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

How do you band limit poor people into cut rate care? I think we're agreeing on the second half and is in tune with my OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557483)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: Ebony infuriating principal's office messiness

free market

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557488)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

Now you're really just agreeing with me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557489)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: passionate brethren lodge

r u 19?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557438)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: Magenta boyish theater stage background story

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5664333&forum_id=2...id.#48557440)