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Crim bros, why are clients obsessed with crap like their "speedy trial" rights?
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Date: February 25th, 2025 2:17 PM Author: .,:,;,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:..,;.,::,..,:,.,.: I'm the appellate bro. A lot of these clients are obsessed with their "speedy trial" rights and getting "muh discovery." I don't get the fixation with with random procedural crap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693185) |
Date: February 25th, 2025 2:20 PM Author: Eternal Disembodied Solitude Because random procedural crap is your best shot at getting off on a technicality when you did do that shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693200) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 2:39 PM Author: Ponchito Bojado It's also one of the few things the client feels like he in control of because most places require waivers on the record consent or good cause findings. Some jurisdictions are sloppier or more burdened than others, but it almost never works and judges will bend over backwards to justify supposed waivers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693262) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 2:31 PM Author: chilmata D.A.s are overwhelmed with caseload like everyone else and they want time to prepare their case. If you insist on your right to a speedy trial they will have to rush preparation and you might get a sweet deal on the day of trial when the D.A. realizes he's completely unprepared because he should have really put in the work the night before, but he went out drinking with his cop buddies and is now hungover and willing to let your guy skate with probation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693239) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: .,:,;,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:..,;.,::,..,:,.,.: Solid answer. Why don't more PDs press this? Because they themselves aren't prepared for trial? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693243) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: chilmata Exactly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693248) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: .,:,;,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:..,;.,::,..,:,.,.: So are the clients obsessed with muh speedy trial savvy or idiots? Is it better for them to go to trial with an unprepared DA where their own PD is also unprepared, or to waive speedy trial and give both sides time to prepare? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693256) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 2:41 PM Author: Ponchito Bojado It depends where you're practicing. Florida has an especially robust speedy trial right and if you're in a high volume county you can pull a fast one on the state sometimes. other states not so much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693265) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 2:53 PM Author: chilmata Clients are not thinking about speedy trial rights and most defense attorneys waive their clients right to a speedy trial without asking because they want that time to try to negotiate a deal with the D.A. Kick it out a couple of months, send the D.A. a couple of emails that are not replied to, leave a couple of voicemails that aren't returned, show up in court only to find a different Assistant D.A. on duty that day who doesn't have any notes in the file, agree to kick it out another month or so, try to reach the D.A. unsuccessfully a few more times, go back to court, the correct D.A. is finally there and apologizes because he went to Peru for a month with his boyfriend and forgot to leave notes with the new D.A., offers your client a sweet deal, client doesn't want to take it and insists he didn't do anything wrong, tell client to fork over $20,000 for a trial, settle case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693296) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 3:25 PM Author: Ponchito Bojado (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693417) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 3:39 PM Author: internet g0y (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693454) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 4:04 PM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693555) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 4:05 PM Author: Trump Did Nothing Wrong when he abandoned Ukraine (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48693559) |
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Date: February 26th, 2025 9:11 AM Author: Eternal Disembodied Solitude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48695066) |
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Date: February 26th, 2025 9:13 AM Author: blow off some steam Love this blank bump chain of various slick dysgenic muds in the know abt shitlaw
This forum and the giant cocked lawyers that poast here are so cool and badass |
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Date: February 26th, 2025 9:33 AM Author: Trump Did Nothing Wrong when he abandoned Ukraine (gunneratttt) poast moniker synergy. i can't imagine why this would make someone irate at 9:13 AM. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48695138) |
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Date: February 26th, 2025 12:55 PM Author: chilmata (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48695920) |
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Date: February 25th, 2025 3:56 PM Author: Anus Boi ^^^what that guy said is completely incorrect. DA’s are not going to be “unprepared” if client invokes his speedy trial right. Because all they have to do is send out subpoenas for their witnesses and put together PowerPoints for their opening and closing. Their investigating officer can do the rest. You’re not achieving some tactical advantage by setting your case for a speedy trial. You do it because your client is delusional and thinks he is innocent/witness won’t show up and he is sick of sitting in jail for “something he didn’t do”
EDIT: in fact, the longer you wait for trial, the more likely witnesses disappear/forget details and become less credible at trial |
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Date: February 26th, 2025 9:36 AM Author: Trump Did Nothing Wrong when he abandoned Ukraine (gunneratttt) not true ime. some of my bffs are prosbros and this sounds ridiculous. they are frequently under the gun and scrambling. they certainly don't have some investigating officer doing the legwork. in fact the thing they complain about most is cops fucking shit up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5685641&forum_id=2...id.#48695145) |
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Date: February 26th, 2025 1:10 PM Author: Idris "Thoughts & Tariffs" Elba Former ProsBro Here,
Do you know how fucking difficult it is to coordinate all the necessary witnesses you need for a criminal case, especially a serious violent felony?
1. Crime Scene Tech; 2. Lead Investigator; 3. Road Patrol cop that actually spoke with witnesses; (who conveniently has "training" on the other side of the fucking state) 4. Backup Investigator that did the interrogation (Because of course DefBro is claiming the interrogation was unlawful so now you need to have a Jackson-Denno Hearing) 5. The Medical Examiner to identify that the victim ACTUALLY DIED FROM THE 5 BULLET WOUNDS and not AIDS or some shit. (My office had to FUCKING PAY TO FLY BACK the ME because he had retired and didn't live in the state anymore. So we had to schedule our trials within the same week so he could testify in them) 6. The motherfucking uncooperative witnesses who all of a sudden developed amnesia (thankfully you have their recorded statements)
Lol @ "just send out subpoenas for witnesses, bro" |