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Reminder: the Civil War was fought over the issue of slavery

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institu...
Angry shrine digit ratio
  05/10/12
yeah...its hard to take southerners seriously when they deny...
Poppy Hairy Legs
  05/10/12
what happened to the south's agricultural economy post-Civil...
mind-boggling sandwich
  05/10/12
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1911882&mc=3...
Angry shrine digit ratio
  05/10/12
The main reason for the war were tariffs
alcoholic volcanic crater liquid oxygen
  05/10/12
"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institu...
Angry shrine digit ratio
  05/10/12
It has broken every compact into which it has entered for ou...
Boyish rebellious yarmulke
  05/10/12
"Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should...
comical rigor
  12/29/23
The Union was evil from the moment of its inception. That's ...
Angry shrine digit ratio
  12/29/23
ongoing 200-yr civil war, as foretold by NYUUG 20 years ago,...
Bonkers idea he suggested university
  12/29/23
bump for the retarded cumskin fuck: http://www.xoxohth.co...
Bonkers idea he suggested university
  12/29/23
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nyuug
  09/15/24
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nyuug
  09/16/24
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nyuug
  09/16/24
OP here
Angry shrine digit ratio
  12/29/23
there was a literal 100 post thread about this very same top...
Bonkers idea he suggested university
  12/31/23
Relevance to 2024?
self-centered fluffy depressive jew
  12/29/23
This is why they accepted the slave state of West Virginia i...
marvelous affirmative action generalized bond
  12/29/23
it was a lot more complicated than that, although yes it was...
cerebral feces black woman
  12/29/23
This flunks Occam's razor
Angry shrine digit ratio
  12/29/23
This is basically it.
MASE
  09/16/24
And the good guys lost
Sexy address half-breed
  12/31/23
so the next one will be about being the shabbos goyim of (((...
;::;:;;::;;;;;::::
  09/16/24


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Date: May 10th, 2012 1:40 PM
Author: Angry shrine digit ratio

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."

-- Mississippi Declaration of Secession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#20661159)



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Date: May 10th, 2012 1:46 PM
Author: Poppy Hairy Legs

yeah...its hard to take southerners seriously when they deny it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#20661212)



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Date: May 10th, 2012 1:48 PM
Author: mind-boggling sandwich

what happened to the south's agricultural economy post-Civil War? pretty much the blacks just became share croppers right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#20661229)



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Date: May 10th, 2012 1:50 PM
Author: Angry shrine digit ratio

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1911882&mc=31&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#20661246)



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Date: May 10th, 2012 1:55 PM
Author: alcoholic volcanic crater liquid oxygen

The main reason for the war were tariffs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#20661285)



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Date: May 10th, 2012 1:56 PM
Author: Angry shrine digit ratio

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."

-- Mississippi Declaration of Secession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#20661297)



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Date: May 10th, 2012 1:58 PM
Author: Boyish rebellious yarmulke

It has broken every compact into which it has entered for our security.

It has given indubitable evidence of its design to ruin our agriculture, to prostrate our industrial pursuits and to destroy our social system.

It knows no relenting or hesitation in its purposes; it stops not in its march of aggression, and leaves us no room to hope for cessation or for pause.

It has recently obtained control of the Government, by the prosecution of its unhallowed schemes, and destroyed the last expectation of living together in friendship and brotherhood.

Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity. We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.

Our decision is made. We follow their footsteps. We embrace the alternative of separation; and for the reasons here stated, we resolve to maintain our rights with the full consciousness of the justice of our course, and the undoubting belief of our ability to maintain it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#20661316)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 11:25 AM
Author: comical rigor

"Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. ... For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England."

This proved true, but what's sad is that the Union states also lost their sovereignty to the central government in DC. You wonder if any of them saw it coming?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47226365)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 11:28 AM
Author: Angry shrine digit ratio

The Union was evil from the moment of its inception. That's not really in dispute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47226378)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 1:20 AM
Author: Bonkers idea he suggested university

ongoing 200-yr civil war, as foretold by NYUUG 20 years ago, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47225467)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 1:21 AM
Author: Bonkers idea he suggested university

bump for the retarded cumskin fuck:

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5467300&mc=4&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47225470)



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Date: September 15th, 2024 7:56 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#48092389)



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Date: September 16th, 2024 12:07 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#48093197)



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Date: September 16th, 2024 4:45 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#48093541)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 11:20 AM
Author: Angry shrine digit ratio

OP here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47226337)



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Date: December 31st, 2023 7:09 PM
Author: Bonkers idea he suggested university

there was a literal 100 post thread about this very same topic a couple days ago. xoxo cumskins are fucktarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47234574)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 11:21 AM
Author: self-centered fluffy depressive jew

Relevance to 2024?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47226345)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 11:23 AM
Author: marvelous affirmative action generalized bond

This is why they accepted the slave state of West Virginia into the Union IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47226355)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 11:32 AM
Author: cerebral feces black woman

it was a lot more complicated than that, although yes it was a part of it.

Here is a letter written by a Rothschild about this very subject. Interesting read IMO

The Causes of the Civil War

by Salomon de Rothschild

I am writing you a separate letter on politics, which is even more confused here than in Europe, but I cannot recommend to you strongly enough to use every influence of our family and our friends to have the Republic of the Southern Confederacy recognized as soon as possible. You will tell me that my ideas have changed, but when you read my other letter, you will tell me I am right, for in this way bloodshed and an immense destruction of property would be stopped.

New Orleans, April 28, '61

I have been in New Orleans for a month now, and I had expected to spend only a few days here. But the political events, which followed one another with such rapidity, were of such a throbbing interest to me that I thought it was my duty to prolong my stay and to make a thoroughgoing study of this very difficult and delicate matter.

Having stayed in the North and in the South, having heard all possible discussions in favor of and against each side, I had the leisure to form a completely independent opinion of my own. I am going to try to transmit it to you, though it is difficult to do so in writing. Therefore, I should start a little farther back.

You know that the former United States was made up of two great parties, the Democrats and the Republicans. These two parties were subdivided into groups, few in numbers, but extremely violent. The abolitionists were the ultra-Republicans; the "fire-eaters" or secessionists, the ultra-Democrats. Fanaticism and extreme factions always carry things their way, and as I gave you a presentiment a long time ago, abolition on the one side and secession on the other won over the moderate neutrals, in spite of themselves.

The point of departure, then, as you know, was the question of slavery. Naturally, since this institution is the source of the wealth of the South, it was defended to the utmost by those who derived profit from it. Two reasons impelled the inhabitants of the North to seek the destruction of slavery by all possible means. The first, which was given by those who wanted to deceive, to win over, chivalrous hearts and to lure European sympathies, was a simple reason, that of humanity. In a free country like America, there shouldn't be any slaves, and complete equality should prevail among all classes. The proof that this reason was not sincere is that the abolitionists spent millions in order to incite insurrections among the slaves, or to induce them to flee from their masters, but let them die of hunger because they were free, and gave them no opportunity for moral advancement. However, the real sentiments which guided them, and which they did not dare admit in that moment, was that feeling of leveling whereby everybody would have to be nominally equal. They couldn't bear to see the inhabitants of the South with 200 hands at their service, when they had only two hands themselves. This feeling was the first germ of the social revolution which is now swiftly following the political revolution. You will recall that I have been talking to you about this for a long time.

The South had numerous sympathizers in the North, but these sympathizers were more interested than it was believed; they knew that with the help of the Southern states they could keep power.

This state of affairs could have continued for many years if the two divisions, South and North, of the Democratic party had not split at the last electoral convention. Since each of them carried a different dandidate, they surrendered power to a third thief, Lincoln, the Republican choice. The cotton states understood that there was no longer any security for them in a union in which the chief of state and all his ministers were their most implacable enemies.

They seceded. Unfortunately for them, the secession was carried out, as everything is done on this continent, illegally and boastfully; and their bravado alienated many moderate men from them and prevented the central slave states from joining them right away.

The Republican administration, thinking that it was dealing with just a small number of states without a large population, and supposing that within these very states the Unionist feeling was still very much alive and was silent only because of the violence and coercion of some demagogic ringleaders, resorted to repressive measures, for which the constitution of the United States gave it no authorization at all.

The first effect of these measures was to make the sentiment for secession unanimous in the Gulf states and strongly to estrange the central states. The latter made a last effort to bring the two factions together, but failed on both sides. After having promised the evacuation of Fort Sumter, the administration tried to resupply it. Several warships appeared in the roadstead; the population of Charlestown was aroused and, perhaps in too much haste, bombarded the fort and captured it. This first cannon shot decided the question.

Lincoln issued a proclamation ordering the rebels to disband within twenty days and to raise the flag of the United States again under penalty of being punished and coerced by force of arms. The situation was becoming clear. The entire deep South was united; the North was beginning to be, but it still had within its ranks many persons who favored Southern rights. Pecuniary interests did the rest. The great question over which the representatives of the South and those of the North had been locked in bitter combat for thirty years was the question of tariffs.

The South was a producer of raw materials, and a consumer; the North was a manufacturer. Free trade, or at least very moderate custom-duties, was the desire of the inhabitants of the South. The North was contending in favor of protection, often even of the prohibition [of imports]. By the old tariff law, the eastern states and New England furnished the other states merchandise which these latter could procure in Europe at reductions of twenty-five and thirty percent.

As soon as the Republican administration (the protector of tariffs) came to power, Congress passed the Morrill Tariff, which raised duties to an unprecedented rate. The states which had seceded responded with a very great decrease in these same tariffs, intimating their eventual, complete abolition when the peaceful state of the country should allow them freedom from recourse to extraordinary measures.

The North understood that it was lost if secession continued and made progress. Who would then come to buy the iron products of Pennsylvania and the manufactured goods of New England? It would no longer by the South, for the South would get its supplies in the European markets and would find a way to pass its purchases into the western states. From that moment on, the South no longer had a supporter in the North; Republicans and Democrats crowded around the flag of the Union. Patriotism and the old memories played some part in this; but believe me, the principal motive was the pocket.

It was therefore necessary to get rid, at all cost, of this spirit of revolt which was making daily progress and bringing the North closer to its ruin. The western and eastern states offered their troops and their treasuries to the government, and were willing to go to any extreme of sacrifice, but this appeal reverberated in a different way in the states which had as yet not decided. Virginia seceded immediately and, bringing to the Southern Confederacy the help of her numerous population and of her inexhaustible storehouses, sought to make up for lost time by seizing the federal arsenals. Tennessee and Kentucky answered that they didn't have a single man to aid the administration to coerce the states of the South, but that they would find a hundred thousand men to defend them. Governor [C.F.] Jackson of Missouri, who was not counted on at all, for that state is surrounded by abolitionist populations and is only half slave, answered Lincoln "that his request was illegal, unconstitutional...and diabolical." Maryland also revolted, and the Federal troops had to make their way through Baltimore amidst a rain of paving stones, which killed some of them and wounded many more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47226405)



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Date: December 29th, 2023 10:05 PM
Author: Angry shrine digit ratio

This flunks Occam's razor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47228873)



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Date: September 16th, 2024 12:27 AM
Author: MASE

This is basically it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#48093265)



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Date: December 31st, 2023 7:31 PM
Author: Sexy address half-breed

And the good guys lost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#47234633)



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Date: September 16th, 2024 4:55 AM
Author: ;::;:;;::;;;;;::::

so the next one will be about being the shabbos goyim of (((GC)))?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1945193&forum_id=2...id.#48093545)