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Has BigLaw chilled out now that ITE is over and Zoomers openly dgaf?
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:18 PM Author: Jonald J. Trump Plus everyone knows there is no chance of making Partner? Have people realized the juice isn't quite worth the squeeze? Do older Millenials and the new cohort still walk around like their hostages on the brink of execution if they fuck up a comma? Do Partners still have leverage generally? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48581903) |
Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:19 PM Author: online poaster (woman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48581910) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:23 PM Author: Jonald J. Trump what does this response mean brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48581936) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:20 PM Author: Roy Cohn sucking Trump to completion It seems like everyone who lasts 12 years makes “Partner” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48581912) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:24 PM Author: Jonald J. Trump so then is everyone still super intense and scurrying around because there is tangible a carrot dangling in front of them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48581943) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 4:24 PM Author: Roy Cohn sucking Trump to completion No, there is just a clear difference between people who are trying to make partner and people who are gonna do BigLaw for a few years. The latter don’t have to pretend as much now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582503) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:34 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; This is all very second hand, but my sense from friends and outside counsel is that being in good with a big booked partner is way more protection than it used to be for everyone he likes. So eg a third year who is a little low on hours is much less vulnerable than he would be 10-20 years ago because they are much less likely to be challenged by the beta dorks who spend hundreds of hours a year working on the management committee to justify their draws despite bringing in a tiny fraction of what the top 10 partners bring in. This means that if you’re willing to do biglaw hours and stress for 10+ years it’s a much more reliable path to service partner like it used to be pre-1997, but only for the chosen top 20% or so of the associates.
This always raises three more questions in my mind, though. 1) how many of those cushier associate spots are sacrificed to DEI, and is that changing over the last four years (my understanding circa 2019 was that preposterous tokenism was rampant and often driven by big clients’ DEI policies about matter staffing), 2) same question but for hot chicks, and 3) doesn’t this lead to a shameless brown-nosing and ass-kissing culture potentially starting as early as summer associates, but clearly by the time a given class has reached its second year. I get varying/inconsistent answers, but at least wrt 2) I can cite at least one hilarious example that just seemed like a service partner or senior associate was hoping to fuck one of the hot chicks and she led him on long enough to get a super cushy mommy-track part-time biglaw gig that was perfect for her childbearing and preschool/nanny years, and then she bounced and went inhouse at the biggest client and now bosses him around every day haha. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:36 PM Author: slam dunk youre a huge fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48581999) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:43 PM Author: yo! bum rush the show (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582024) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:52 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; I’m much taller, bigger and stronger than you are, but “huge” is overstating it. I’m exclusively interested in biological women sexually with a strong preference for women between the ages of 18-35 with C cups or bigger and 20 BMIs or lower. But if you mean fag in the Louis CK people from Phoenix are Phoenicians sense, then you’re harsh but probably fair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582091) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:58 PM Author: slam dunk no you are a short jew that wants to get fucked by men
I am sure you were meant to be a homosexual biologically but the racial narcissism of your progenitors caused them to psychologically abuse you into having a false identity |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 3:00 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) To be fair, "I’m much taller, bigger and stronger than you are, but “huge” is overstating it."
Lol no you're not, but I'm sure you think you are and that's what matters.
"I’m exclusively interested in biological women sexually with a strong preference for women between the ages of 18-35 with C cups or bigger and 20 BMIs or lower."
Lol no you're not, but I'm sure you think you are and that's what matters.
"But if you mean fag in the Louis CK people from Phoenix are Phoenicians sense, then you’re harsh but probably fair."
Lol no I don't, but I'm sure you think I do and that's what matters.
I love how you're trying to use this post to paint yourself as some sort of massive, muscular, alpha male who only fucks hot chicks and is so secure and confident that he's totally not remotely mad or upset about some random internet stranger calling him a faggot, but the fact that you're responding to this at all (and the fact that you're responding in this particular way) completely gives you away.
You're a faggot, and you're mad about it, and that's why you're responding to this post.
Lol, faggot. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 3:01 PM Author: slam dunk if you slapped this guy in the face there would be a blotch of cum splattered on the opposite wall after (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582128) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 4:29 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; lol you got me I’m devastated. Not nearly as devastated as I would be if I woke up tomorrow in your fat, disgusting body with your very underpowered brain. If that happened to me I would kill myself immediately. But no, you’re right. This completely boring and repetitive half-assed attempt at trolling me has caused me to reconsider all my choices that brought me to this place. I hope it gives you a lot of pleasure to ruin my day like this. Add it to your list of “accomplishments” along with your “tech career” and your “legal career” and your collection of big and tall sized mumus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582516) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:45 PM Author: Jonald J. Trump i'm gay, btw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582038) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:53 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Wow you’re so brave to live your truth with your poasting brethren. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582095) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:04 PM Author: homewardbound_fan92tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582635) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 3:04 PM Author: snk neo geo It's gotten easier to make equity partner than, say, 10 years ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582140) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,.,.,.,., (Opposite Day) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48583438) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 3:13 PM Author: mog At my V10 (t. third-year associate) the sense I've gotten speaking with senior associates and partners is that if you're in a hot practice area (or in some cases not even necessary) and stick around you'll make non-equity partner.
My zoomer and millennial peers don't seem to like working hard and prioritize their work-life balance more than e.g., staying up late turning comments on a live deal.
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 4:54 PM Author: He flexed his right muscle. IME, a lot of the zoomers emboldened by the ‘21ish hiring rush are really starting to overplay their hand on the work life balance shit. You’re starting to see a lot of headcount reductions at firms (not necessarily layoffs, but just not replacing departures at the rate they’re leaving). Reality is going to hit these fags in the face. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582593) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:00 PM Author: Jonald J. Trump So are you predicting an increase in performance based separations? If not, how else would reality hit these people in the face, other than possibly through bonus reductions?
btw, i'm gay |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:10 PM Author: He flexed his right muscle. I don’t expect outright layoffs unless the economy hits the shitter, but these people will be forced out and they’ll find that the lateral market is way tougher then they were accounting for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48582665) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 8:53 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,.,.,.,., Some of the comments ITT that don’t seem to grasp that firms aren’t making people non-equity as a gift they’re making them non-equity because we realized we can fuck people in the ass, bill them out like regular partners, have them run cases so we can continue to exploit the leverage model, and pay them a fraction of the $ they generate directly and indirectly and by and large they’ll take it. This isn’t a sign of things getting chiller. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48583446) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 8:59 PM Author: Jonald J. Trump ok, that's the NEP class. but what about the associates? i'd think they must realize that (a) they're likely not going to make it no matter what they do and (b) you need them more than they need you (e.g., because of the state of the hiring / market for legal services). coupled with their natural prelicition toward laziness, my thought is they aren't willing to work as hard as their millenial forebears. on top of that, there's not much you can do about it. is this correct? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48583465) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:37 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,.,.,.,., The "older Zoomers / younger Millennials won't grind" thing is overstated IME and the viewpoint seems to come from people who aren't actually in biglaw to observe the workplace dynamics. It fails to appreciate that law as a profession continues to attract type A anal retentive striver pleasers who had to compete to get into the T14 and then compete to get into the V50/25/10 and naturally want to please and win and "succeed" now at the firm. When they come to the firm they're still good workerbees, they yes sir / yes maam with the best of them, and they grind.
Hot take: The ones who seem more fucked up are those who were young attorneys during peak COVID years, so think 1st and 2nd years 2020, 2021, 2022, now they're mid-levels / early seniors, and that cohort sucks. It's not their fault but they didn't develop skills and they also got accustomed to slacking (because they didn't have the benefit of being put in the environment, they went to work from day one in sweatpants and sat on Zooms) and so they tend to lack work ethic / have bad attitudes / are prone to quiet quitting now that firms are pushing RTO and they're being asked to shoulder more responsibility. But it's not a generational thing it's isolated to a few years worth of attorneys who suffered because of COVID lockdown fuckery. |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:35 PM Author: Trump has to go back I'm confused, how is this any different than any other time in BIGLAW history? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48583578) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:42 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,.,.,.,., Most firms didn't get wise to the idea of permanent non-equity / of counsel positions at a mass scale until the last 5-10 years. The non-equity tiers have expanded bigly over the past decade (while equity partners have remained about stable and profits per partner have soared). 20 years ago if you were Johnny Good Attorney and stuck it out in biglaw for your 10 years, you were going to get equity in most cases. If you were a grinder who had inadvertently stuck around but just sucked, you'd get counseled out, go down the Vault, and get equity somewhere shittier, but still be a real partner. Equity wasn't some ephemeral concept that might happen to someone you know one day, it was the goalpost at the end of the road. Most of the good attorneys who would have eventually been made real partner in 2000/2005 are now being relegated to permanent of counsel status. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48583596) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:58 PM Author: Drunkard Depends on where you are. Hours are actually marginally up overall but I think it is more DBG style padding than actual work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668699&forum_id=2...id.#48583632) |