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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Appetizing bronze set
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Glittery Cocky French Chef
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
opaque nibblets
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Glittery Cocky French Chef
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
opaque nibblets
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Glittery Cocky French Chef
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
vibrant red heaven clown
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Paralegal Muhammad
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Supple marketing idea tank
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cq
Frum crotch
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
cracking dysfunction partner
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
vibrant red heaven clown
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Blathering Big Kitty Market
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Dashing jade fanboi
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Appetizing bronze set

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Sadistic Twinkling Multi-billionaire Doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49105012)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Glittery Cocky French Chef

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: opaque nibblets

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Glittery Cocky French Chef

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: opaque nibblets

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Glittery Cocky French Chef

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: vibrant red heaven clown

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Paralegal Muhammad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Supple marketing idea tank

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Frum crotch

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: cracking dysfunction partner

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: vibrant red heaven clown

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Blathering Big Kitty Market

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Dashing jade fanboi

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: waste land of reality

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49105022)