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🚨 Pakistan shoots down Indian passenger airline 🚨

https://www.twitter.com/BabaHakim0/status/193309346744329865...
hateful marvelous filthpig
  06/12/25
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fishy flirting piazza police squad
  06/12/25
OP jokes but hints at a larger problem with accidents that h...
beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker
  06/12/25
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fishy flirting piazza police squad
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lime juggernaut
  06/12/25
If captain allears had been on board it wouldnt have gone do...
Primrose coffee pot sanctuary
  06/12/25
supposedly it crashed directly into a medical school while s...
hateful marvelous filthpig
  06/12/25
*white people breathing ANOTHER sigh of relief*
Floppy salmon scourge upon the earth gas station
  06/12/25
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Embarrassed to the bone university
  06/12/25
wow
lime juggernaut
  06/12/25
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Sepia Out-of-control Senate
  06/12/25
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beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker
  06/12/25
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Motley wine rigor hell
  06/12/25
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up-to-no-good amber turdskin kitty cat
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Vigorous crackhouse
  06/12/25
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boyish navy forum
  06/12/25
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gold macaca french chef
  06/12/25
Jewish guy at the very back of the plane survived for a whil...
beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker
  06/12/25
not flame, i thought of going to korea on a holiday right be...
fishy flirting piazza police squad
  06/12/25
Thoughts and prayers
Hairraiser legal warrant
  06/12/25
I took an Air India flight in about 2018 but I'm OK
Sepia Out-of-control Senate
  06/12/25
Don't let Koreans pilot your aircraft. At least Indians co-p...
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
Saw an Infographic recently which said India has the highest...
crystalline aphrodisiac jap
  06/12/25
They're probably better than the men
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
yep and they brag abt it, in airports they have signs braggi...
cerise dog poop toilet seat
  06/12/25
Almost certainly pilot error. The 787 is an exhaustively pr...
heady friendly grandma cuckoldry
  06/12/25
Oh fuck we convince India to buy those? These "people&q...
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
yep its not like some of the guys at boeing who actually mad...
cerise dog poop toilet seat
  06/12/25
Bro on X said the flaps appeared to be set at 0 instead of 1...
Lascivious sandwich
  06/12/25
Doesn't necessarily mean it was pilot error but still, you k...
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
this is just like the wright brothers at kitty hawk (right u...
Fragrant native personal credit line
  06/12/25
jfc some guy in comments claims it shows the pilots retract...
Sepia Out-of-control Senate
  06/12/25
this other guy says the same thing https://x.com/PilotPoli/...
Sepia Out-of-control Senate
  06/12/25
how is this not an automated part of the takeoff?
beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker
  06/12/25
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Sepia Out-of-control Senate
  06/12/25
LOL stupid fuckin jeets let's import millions more!
Jet crawly electric furnace school
  06/12/25
i don't see any birdshits. this looks like pilot error. the ...
crystalline aphrodisiac jap
  06/12/25
JFC, motherfucker stalled almost instantly
beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker
  06/12/25
Holy shit
Canary Brethren
  06/12/25
how is this a "tragedy"?
Jet crawly electric furnace school
  06/12/25
What is the exact cause of death in an accident like this? B...
appetizing dilemma
  06/12/25
blunt force trauma most likely... it was an instaneous massi...
Rusted Market Factory Reset Button
  06/12/25
There are often some survivors in crashes like this though, ...
appetizing dilemma
  06/12/25
TT your response to the death offirst officer Clive (son of ...
Fragrant native personal credit line
  06/12/25
pilot did the needful and kept these jeets out of western co...
cerise dog poop toilet seat
  06/12/25
He probably told the pilot what was happening, but the pilot...
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
Guy from the prior flight claims nothing on the plane was wo...
Milky resort
  06/12/25
thats all their planes though, why dont they crash. they act...
cerise dog poop toilet seat
  06/12/25
I can't believe Indians would struggle with airplane mainten...
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
stupid clickbait
beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker
  06/12/25
Wow, that's insane. What a piece of shit airline these turds...
Greedy exhilarant indian lodge
  06/12/25
turns out jet fuel can melt jeets
Turquoise Antidepressant Drug Psychic
  06/12/25
Saar! Saar! Do not redeem the flaps Saar! Do not redeem s...
Turquoise Antidepressant Drug Psychic
  06/12/25
"Fuck you bloody" *conversation cuts off*
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
new angle https://x.com/JeffWCarlton/status/1933176198122...
Green Laughsome Philosopher-king
  06/12/25
🚨BREAKING🚨 Audio between the pilot of Air India flight...
Floppy salmon scourge upon the earth gas station
  06/12/25
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crystalline aphrodisiac jap
  06/12/25
You can tell that's exactly what happened. Even maintenance ...
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
I'm honestly not sure if this is a joke
Passionate buff organic girlfriend corn cake
  06/12/25
not flame my pilot instructor friend did nothing but drill t...
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
The one where they crashed in the river because the copilot ...
alcoholic affirmative action bawdyhouse
  06/12/25
That's a really weird one for sure. It's like taking the LSA...
topaz jewess
  06/12/25
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Sepia Out-of-control Senate
  06/12/25
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Arousing institution gaming laptop
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Vigorous crackhouse
  06/13/25
One passenger managed to JUMP and survive this time. https:...
Unholy station
  06/12/25
get that goy a moniker
rose balding space
  06/12/25
ran here when I saw this, you see him on the ground just wal...
ultramarine alcoholic cruise ship
  06/13/25


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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: hateful marvelous filthpig

https://www.twitter.com/BabaHakim0/status/1933093467443298659

242 passengers; outbound to london from ahmedabad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007641)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:39 AM
Author: fishy flirting piazza police squad

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007649)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:00 AM
Author: beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker

OP jokes but hints at a larger problem with accidents that happen in countries where saving face is more important that the truth, or saving lives, or any other trivial thing like that

India’s “investigation” of this crash will be an absolute farce, and in no way will any Indian be accused of anything. not the pilots, not the ATC, not the ground crews, no one

it’s those benchods from Boeing and their faulty plane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007676)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:08 AM
Author: fishy flirting piazza police squad

120

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007680)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:55 AM
Author: lime juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007712)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: Primrose coffee pot sanctuary

If captain allears had been on board it wouldnt have gone down like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009581)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:36 AM
Author: hateful marvelous filthpig

supposedly it crashed directly into a medical school while school was in session.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007701)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:38 AM
Author: Floppy salmon scourge upon the earth gas station

*white people breathing ANOTHER sigh of relief*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007704)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:40 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007707)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:55 AM
Author: lime juggernaut

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007713)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:00 AM
Author: Sepia Out-of-control Senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007773)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:33 AM
Author: beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007819)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: Motley wine rigor hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007959)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:02 AM
Author: up-to-no-good amber turdskin kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008197)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: Vigorous crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008220)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: boyish navy forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008224)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: gold macaca french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008806)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:38 AM
Author: beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker

Jewish guy at the very back of the plane survived for a while and apparently was cogent enough to remark “is there a doctor on board?” before expiring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007705)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:57 AM
Author: fishy flirting piazza police squad

not flame, i thought of going to korea on a holiday right before that jeju air crash.

i thought the same about a sojourn in maine right before that schizo killed 30 people

i guess in this instance it was TT holding the bag this time round, hopefully that implies he inherited my curse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007715)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 7:59 AM
Author: Hairraiser legal warrant

Thoughts and prayers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007771)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:00 AM
Author: Sepia Out-of-control Senate

I took an Air India flight in about 2018 but I'm OK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007774)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: topaz jewess

Don't let Koreans pilot your aircraft. At least Indians co-pilots will argue. Korean co-pilots just stay silent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008932)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:15 AM
Author: crystalline aphrodisiac jap

Saw an Infographic recently which said India has the highest number of female pilots. Something like 12%. ljl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007794)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: topaz jewess

They're probably better than the men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007906)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: cerise dog poop toilet seat

yep and they brag abt it, in airports they have signs bragging abt it, ljl pajeets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008216)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:19 AM
Author: heady friendly grandma cuckoldry

Almost certainly pilot error. The 787 is an exhaustively proven aircraft.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007922)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: topaz jewess

Oh fuck we convince India to buy those? These "people" are amazing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007923)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: cerise dog poop toilet seat

yep its not like some of the guys at boeing who actually made the plane warned that eventually these will fall out of the sky cause they are SHIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008213)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: Lascivious sandwich

Bro on X said the flaps appeared to be set at 0 instead of 15 degrees, guaranteeing a crash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009353)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: topaz jewess

Doesn't necessarily mean it was pilot error but still, you know they were arguing in the cockpit on the way down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009362)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Fragrant native personal credit line

this is just like the wright brothers at kitty hawk (right until the end)

https://x.com/Vikasmakwana111/status/1933162059556159903

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008084)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Sepia Out-of-control Senate

jfc

some guy in comments claims it shows the pilots retracted flaps instead of landing gear

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008097)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: Sepia Out-of-control Senate

this other guy says the same thing

https://x.com/PilotPoli/status/1933091986543886618

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008188)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker

how is this not an automated part of the takeoff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008193)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:04 AM
Author: Sepia Out-of-control Senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008206)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: Jet crawly electric furnace school

LOL stupid fuckin jeets

let's import millions more!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008218)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: crystalline aphrodisiac jap

i don't see any birdshits. this looks like pilot error. the plane looks too slow even on the takeoff roll.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008117)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker

JFC, motherfucker stalled almost instantly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008122)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Canary Brethren

Holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009575)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: Jet crawly electric furnace school

how is this a "tragedy"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008203)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: appetizing dilemma

What is the exact cause of death in an accident like this? Blunt force trauma? Being ripped apart by the explosion? Burning alive? Smoke inhalation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008226)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: Rusted Market Factory Reset Button

blunt force trauma most likely... it was an instaneous massive explosion and the blast alone would definitely render you unconscious before being burned alive by jet fuel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008645)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: appetizing dilemma

There are often some survivors in crashes like this though, which suggest many passengers probably survive the initial impact but probably succumb to fire or smoke inhalation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008867)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: Fragrant native personal credit line

TT your response to the death offirst officer Clive (son of Clifford) "Kunder" cousin to bollywood superstar "Vikrant" Massey?

https://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/news/air-india-plane-crash-who-was-clive-kunder-vikrant-massey-reacts-to-co-pilot-s-death-see-post-2025-06-12-994457

Maybe he used to fly for Loganair in scotland?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwyVWaCAD2A



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008343)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: cerise dog poop toilet seat

pilot did the needful and kept these jeets out of western countries, he deserves a medal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008677)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: topaz jewess

He probably told the pilot what was happening, but the pilot ignored him because he comes from a lower caste.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008681)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:50 PM
Author: Milky resort

Guy from the prior flight claims nothing on the plane was working: https://x.com/akku92/status/1933114664923148455

Jesus, it might turn out India's flag carrier actually ran a Dreamliner into the ground to the point it couldn't take off without crashing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008665)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: cerise dog poop toilet seat

thats all their planes though, why dont they crash. they actually have a pretty good safety record, last major crash was like 10 years ago or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008686)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: topaz jewess

I can't believe Indians would struggle with airplane maintenance after watching TT encounter a small diesel engine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008687)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: beady-eyed outnumbered state boistinker

stupid clickbait

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008694)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: Greedy exhilarant indian lodge

Wow, that's insane. What a piece of shit airline these turds can't do anything right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008698)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: Turquoise Antidepressant Drug Psychic

turns out jet fuel can melt jeets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008672)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: Turquoise Antidepressant Drug Psychic

Saar! Saar! Do not redeem the flaps Saar! Do not redeem saar!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008676)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: topaz jewess

"Fuck you bloody" *conversation cuts off*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008804)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Green Laughsome Philosopher-king

new angle

https://x.com/JeffWCarlton/status/1933176198122639791

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008798)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Floppy salmon scourge upon the earth gas station

🚨BREAKING🚨 Audio between the pilot of Air India flight 171 and tower control was released.

https://x.com/TheOnlyDSC/status/1933173833214919023

heads will roll over this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008906)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: crystalline aphrodisiac jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008921)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:57 PM
Author: topaz jewess

You can tell that's exactly what happened. Even maintenance crews fucked up, the pilot and co-pilot were arguing with each other the whole time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008928)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Passionate buff organic girlfriend corn cake

I'm honestly not sure if this is a joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009367)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: topaz jewess

not flame my pilot instructor friend did nothing but drill this into the heads of foreign pilots: THERE'S NO HIERARCHY IN THE COCKPIT. He played black box recordings of fatal crashes where the co-pilot said nothing and made students listen to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009370)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: alcoholic affirmative action bawdyhouse

The one where they crashed in the river because the copilot didn’t make a bigger deal about the fact that the snow machine / deicer wasn’t on still haunts me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009633)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: topaz jewess

That's a really weird one for sure. It's like taking the LSAT and getting every question wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009637)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:16 PM
Author: Sepia Out-of-control Senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009565)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: Arousing institution gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009820)



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Date: June 13th, 2025 1:53 AM
Author: Vigorous crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49011130)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Unholy station

One passenger managed to JUMP and survive this time. https://www.reuters.com/world/india/survivor-air-india-crash-jumped-out-emergency-exit-police-say-2025-06-12/

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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: rose balding space

get that goy a moniker

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Date: June 13th, 2025 1:28 AM
Author: ultramarine alcoholic cruise ship

ran here when I saw this, you see him on the ground just walking off? rip to all those souls but that man must feel fucking alive

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