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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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multi-colored hall
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
cyan adulterous striped hyena
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
cyan adulterous striped hyena
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Gaped drab ape
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Abnormal mewling masturbator
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
aggressive legal warrant
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
mauve abode coffee pot
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
navy chad karate
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
navy chad karate
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
navy chad karate
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Ocher excitant hunting ground
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
seedy bisexual travel guidebook quadroon
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
bipolar faggot firefighter doctorate
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
aggressive legal warrant
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
multi-colored hall
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
mustard station nowag
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Bateful crackhouse messiness
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Claret razzmatazz cuck
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
multi-colored hall
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Odious business firm
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/26/25
...
Hairraiser buck-toothed pit factory reset button
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Magical Sandwich School Cafeteria
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Curious rehab incel
  06/26/25
...
Hideous harsh lay
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
light geriatric library
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
plum community account
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Ruddy razzle reading party
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
plum community account
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
aggressive legal warrant
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
mauve abode coffee pot
  06/27/25
...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
boyish insane dragon house
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
plum community account
  06/27/25
...
Primrose startling stead
  06/27/25
...
Racy giraffe codepig
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Ruddy razzle reading party
  06/27/25
How is STB?
mauve abode coffee pot
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
concupiscible cumskin home
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
aggressive legal warrant
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Magical Sandwich School Cafeteria
  06/27/25
...
Marvelous market
  06/27/25
...
aggressive legal warrant
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: multi-colored hall

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: cyan adulterous striped hyena

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: cyan adulterous striped hyena

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Gaped drab ape

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Abnormal mewling masturbator

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: aggressive legal warrant

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: mauve abode coffee pot

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: navy chad karate

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: navy chad karate

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: navy chad karate

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Ocher excitant hunting ground

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: seedy bisexual travel guidebook quadroon

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: bipolar faggot firefighter doctorate

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: aggressive legal warrant

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: multi-colored hall

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: mustard station nowag

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Bateful crackhouse messiness

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Claret razzmatazz cuck

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: multi-colored hall

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Odious business firm

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Hairraiser buck-toothed pit factory reset button



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Magical Sandwich School Cafeteria

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Curious rehab incel

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Hideous harsh lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: light geriatric library

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: plum community account

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Ruddy razzle reading party

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: plum community account

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: aggressive legal warrant

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: mauve abode coffee pot

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: boyish insane dragon house

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: plum community account

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Primrose startling stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Racy giraffe codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Ruddy razzle reading party

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: mauve abode coffee pot

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: concupiscible cumskin home

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: aggressive legal warrant

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Magical Sandwich School Cafeteria

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Marvelous market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: aggressive legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053817)