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Top Trump allies hold secret talks with Zelenskyy’s Ukrainian opponents
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Date: March 6th, 2025 10:54 AM Author: DrakeMallardxo (🦆) https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-allies-secret-talks-volodymyr-zelenskyy-opposition-ukraine-elections-yulia-tymoshenko-petro-poroshenko/
KYIV — Four senior members of Donald Trump’s entourage have held secret discussions with some of Kyiv’s top political opponents to Volodymyr Zelenskyy, just as Washington aligns with Moscow in seeking to lever the Ukrainian president out of his job. The senior Trump allies held talks with Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, a remorselessly ambitious former prime minister, and senior members of the party of Petro Poroshenko, Zelenskyy’s immediate predecessor as president, according to three Ukrainian parliamentarians and a U.S. Republican foreign policy expert. The discussions centered on whether Ukraine could hold quick presidential elections. These are being delayed in line with the country’s constitution because Ukraine remains under martial law. Critics of holding elections say they could be chaotic and play into Russia’s hands, with so many potential voters serving on the front lines or living abroad as refugees. |
Date: March 6th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: """'"'"""'' wow interfering in other countries' elections, very isolationist of Trumpmos!
it's only globalist when the other side does it!!! |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 11:08 AM Author: mountain cat i thought Zelensky was supposed to be the US puppet president. Why would we want to replace him?
Also, lol @ meeting with Poroshenko and Tymoshenko rather than Zaluzhny who is the clear leading opposition candidate. |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 11:09 AM Author: """'"'"""'' that was last week's narrative (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721179) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. I don't think Zaluzhny is sufficiently onboard with the Trump ideal for Ukraine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721184) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 11:47 AM Author: mountain cat Obviously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721333) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 11:12 AM Author: FASE tho thecret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721190) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 11:14 AM Author: you\'re the puppet Wow, these are some awful options. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721205) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 11:18 AM Author: LathamTouchedMe Each of the four candidates is as staunchly nationalist and anti-Russian as Z. In some cases more so. I don’t understand the admins play here unless it’s really just being butthurt about Z’s personal slights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721223) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 11:53 AM Author: mountain cat Poroshenko and Tymoshenko are potentially more susceptible to influence.
It is pretty hilarious that anti-ukrainemos spent years claiming that the maidan was a US coup and that zelensky was a puppet. Now, those same people are attempting to oust Zelensky because he actually is not a puppet and they also won't engage with the most popular opposition candidate, Zaluzhny, because he similarly is staunchly anti-Russia. Instead, they are meeting with Poroshenko, the guy who allegedly the US put in power immediately following the maidan CIA coup.
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Date: March 6th, 2025 12:03 PM Author: :;:;;;:;:;;;:;:;:;:; Lmao.
Drake? |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe "Now, those same people are attempting to oust Zelensky because he actually is not a puppet and they also won't engage with the most popular opposition candidate, Zaluzhny, because he similarly is staunchly anti-Russia. Instead, they are meeting with Poroshenko, the guy who allegedly the US put in power immediately following the maidan CIA coup."
lol, true. They buy into shitty russian propaganda which doesn't stand the least bit of scrutiny. |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: you\'re the puppet He was obviously a Biden deep state puppet which means he's against Trump. This is no longer a nationalsit, country X v country Y world. Trump is fighting a transnational, idealogical war. Zelenskiy chose the wrong side in that war. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721413) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 12:40 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe ukrainians don't want to be ruled by russia or a russian puppet. why is that so hard to grasp? Z wouldn't have survived this long if otherwise. His political rivals wouldn't be so anti-russian if otherwise. Always with the silly conspiracy theories. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721470) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 6:23 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. "ukrainians don't want to be"
The Party of Regions was the largest party in Ukraine before the color revolution crowd (foreign funded) banned them and overthrew the democratically elected president. And now there are zero planned elections. What Ukrainians want has never been relevant.
But consider that the number of people that fled Ukraine and have no desire to return is a good metric for how happy Ukrainians are with this new government. That has been true since 2014 btw. The only reason more don't flee is because of tight border controls (people die all the time trying to escape). |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 7:40 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe The vast majority of the people fleeing Ukraine before the 2022 invasion were those in the occupied/breakaway territories. And yes Russia laying waste to towns and villages and firing missiles into cities will probably cause people to be displaced and leave. Even at its height in the early 2010’s, the pro-Russia sentiment in Ukraine was barely majority and most importantly NOT in favor of Russian annexation. Russia pissed away whatever goodwill they had in the population with the both invasions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722741) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 8:02 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. A huge amount of people from Kharkov, Odessa, etc. were leaving post 2014. And Donetsk/Lugansk was a warzone until very recently so your point about missiles and artillery applies to that scenario as well. Of course Ukrainian nationalists in Lviv had less reason to leave than Party of Regions people in Kharkov/Odessa and people in a warzone. Notably, people in Crimea didn't really leave since it was peaceful and those that did were pro-Ukrainian, but it was a tiny group (mostly Crimean Tatars).
None of this supports your narrative that everyone just loves this pro-Western government. The reality is that the country has closed borders for a reason, relies on conscription far more so than Russia, and has indefinitely cancelled elections. |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: mountain cat Let's just talk about a timeline to see if what you're saying makes sense.
Zelensky is the Biden puppet even though he was elected while Trump was in office in 2019.
Poroshenko is the independent non-Biden puppet even though he was elected in 2014 while Obama was the president (and Biden the VP) following what you and people who reiterate the same arguments you do describe as a CIA coup to overthrow the legitimate president, Yanukovych. |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 2:03 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48721770) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 6:28 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. It is more correct to say that he is a globalist puppet put in place by Nuland types and that Biden is part of the same crowd. Biden generally didn't know where he was, much less how he felt about Ukraine and similarly had no idea who Zelensky was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722587) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; But Poroshenko is based as fukkk, right? In that he’s willing to send the right payments to the right accounts in the Seychelles, just like the good old days in 2009, as opposed to the kickbacks that Zelensky’s government was paying to the team of corrupt assholes we don’t like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722621) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 7:31 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. I don't believe I ever suggested that Poro was a good guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722723) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 9:45 PM Author: mountain cat I thought nuland put poroshenko in power after the cia maidan coup. She got sick of him and then rigged the 2019 election to put Zelensky in power? So I guess proshenko is now Trump’s preferred nuland globalist puppet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48723001) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 6:36 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Some of these retarded poasts you make are happening when you’re drunk, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722601) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 6:34 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; So do you think they give Manafort a taste or is he just at home pacing back and forth and totally consumed with FOMO? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722597) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 7:07 PM Author: Judas Jones Jesus, the Loganski Act. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722664) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 7:08 PM Author: ""''"'' Mister Zensky should hap just said tank you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722668) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 8:25 PM Author: Hawk Taulia Tagovailoa (High Constitutional Moment) If anyone can make progress on regime change in Ukraine, it's top Trump allies, I'm sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48722834) |
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Date: March 6th, 2025 9:46 PM Author: mountain cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5689900&forum_id=2...id.#48723002) |