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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law...
ungodly apoplectic electric furnace jew
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Bossy khaki foreskin
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Bossy khaki foreskin
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Abnormal station
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Mildly autistic friendly grandma
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Cocky Field
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Fragrant Shivering Jewess Water Buffalo
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
tantric blue hell
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Cocky Field
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
tantric blue hell
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
tantric blue hell
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Sinister dysfunction gay wizard
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
cerebral flesh macaca tattoo
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Razzle-dazzle hospital puppy
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
ungodly apoplectic electric furnace jew
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
buck-toothed market private investor
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
comical mauve parlour
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
citrine sickened office
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
ungodly apoplectic electric furnace jew
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
bronze spectacular police squad center
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Cocky Field
  06/26/25
...
Carmine nighttime brunch
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Nudist Charismatic Cuckoldry Rehab
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Bespoke nofapping milk trust fund
  06/26/25
...
Swashbuckling violet stage
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
dead theater elastic band
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
translucent twisted house preventive strike
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Sapphire area brethren
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Cocky Field
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
translucent twisted house preventive strike
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Cocky Field
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Fragrant Shivering Jewess Water Buffalo
  06/27/25
...
Cocky Field
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
soul-stirring home
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
translucent twisted house preventive strike
  06/27/25
...
Self-absorbed Painfully Honest Community Account
  06/27/25
...
Cocky Field
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Sapphire area brethren
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Fragrant Shivering Jewess Water Buffalo
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
boyish tan candlestick maker
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Nudist Charismatic Cuckoldry Rehab
  06/27/25
...
Crimson new version sneaky criminal
  06/27/25
...
Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: ungodly apoplectic electric furnace jew

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Cocky Field

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Bossy khaki foreskin

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Cocky Field

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Bossy khaki foreskin

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Abnormal station

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Mildly autistic friendly grandma

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Cocky Field

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Fragrant Shivering Jewess Water Buffalo

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: tantric blue hell

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Cocky Field

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: tantric blue hell

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: tantric blue hell

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Cocky Field

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Sinister dysfunction gay wizard

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Cocky Field

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Cocky Field

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Cocky Field

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: cerebral flesh macaca tattoo

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hospital puppy

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Cocky Field

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: ungodly apoplectic electric furnace jew

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Cocky Field

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: buck-toothed market private investor

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: comical mauve parlour

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: citrine sickened office

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: ungodly apoplectic electric furnace jew

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: bronze spectacular police squad center

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Cocky Field

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Carmine nighttime brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Nudist Charismatic Cuckoldry Rehab

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Bespoke nofapping milk trust fund

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Swashbuckling violet stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: dead theater elastic band

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: translucent twisted house preventive strike

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Sapphire area brethren

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Cocky Field

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: translucent twisted house preventive strike

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Cocky Field

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Fragrant Shivering Jewess Water Buffalo

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Cocky Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: soul-stirring home

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: translucent twisted house preventive strike

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Self-absorbed Painfully Honest Community Account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Cocky Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Sapphire area brethren

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Fragrant Shivering Jewess Water Buffalo

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: boyish tan candlestick maker

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Nudist Charismatic Cuckoldry Rehab

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Crimson new version sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Maize Infuriating Space Hissy Fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053817)