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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
learning disabled stag film
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
Fragrant chrome rigpig trust fund
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
learning disabled stag film
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
Fragrant chrome rigpig trust fund
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
Fragrant chrome rigpig trust fund
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
excitant salmon shrine
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
learning disabled stag film
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
learning disabled stag film
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
learning disabled stag film
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated
slate quadroon set
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
180 locale
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/05/26
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Mind-boggling sadistic corner
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
Up-to-no-good Misanthropic Casino
  04/05/26
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slate quadroon set
  04/05/26
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harsh geriatric pit
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
Mischievous Gunner
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
Concupiscible stage coffee pot
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
razzle-dazzle piazza
  04/06/26
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Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Mind-boggling sadistic corner
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
razzle-dazzle piazza
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Mind-boggling sadistic corner
  04/07/26


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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: learning disabled stag film

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Fragrant chrome rigpig trust fund

He's undoubtedly top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: learning disabled stag film

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: Fragrant chrome rigpig trust fund

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Fragrant chrome rigpig trust fund

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

all 3 above above ryan?



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: excitant salmon shrine

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: learning disabled stag film

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

he's def most high iq though, no?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: learning disabled stag film

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: learning disabled stag film

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: slate quadroon set

he's appropriately rated

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: 180 locale

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Mind-boggling sadistic corner



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good Misanthropic Casino

Pedro was better (than anyone).

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: harsh geriatric pit



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: Mischievous Gunner

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Concupiscible stage coffee pot

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle piazza

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: Opaque slimy preventive strike boltzmann



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Mind-boggling sadistic corner

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle piazza

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Mind-boggling sadistic corner

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

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