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Why electoral votes instead of popular voteS?

explain? why not democracy instead of weird organ democracy
VoteTrump
  11/05/24
you mean why electoral college or why do we have 'electors' ...
Monday Preceding Apocalypse
  11/05/24
so answer the first as it is today. if it changed to popular...
VoteTrump
  11/05/24
They'd still be important I think since they have lots of pe...
Monday Preceding Apocalypse
  11/05/24
outdated concept in some ways because when it was adopted ea...
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  11/05/24
Don’t worry Trump will lose that too
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  11/05/24


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Date: November 5th, 2024 2:31 PM
Author: VoteTrump (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?)

explain? why not democracy instead of weird organ democracy

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Date: November 5th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: Monday Preceding Apocalypse (No Future)

you mean why electoral college or why do we have 'electors' instead of just having the state winner of the popular vote receive that state's votes?

Answer to the first involves the complexities of getting all the original states to sign up to a system that wouldn't dilute or overweight anyone's power; the second is probably a good idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625936&forum_id=2...id.#48287741)



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Date: November 5th, 2024 2:36 PM
Author: VoteTrump (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?)

so answer the first as it is today. if it changed to popular some bitchy states like the commonwealth ones va pa would stop being so important?

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Date: November 5th, 2024 2:43 PM
Author: Monday Preceding Apocalypse (No Future)

They'd still be important I think since they have lots of people

In some ways it would be more democratic--as it is, libs in TX and cons in CA both exist in sizable real numbers but don't have any real say in the presidential election--but I think it's valid to worry about elections coming down to who can win in the cities; if you're a conservative, you should be particularly concerned about that given the demographics of cities (UMC college educated whites + poor minorities) tend to go lib (also, cities are historically easier places to concentrate power with political machines and do corruption).

It's also one of those things where if we were doing the country all over again it might make sense to just do pop vote and I think there are valid reasons both for and against that, but there are structural incentives right now for libs to want to abolish it and cons to want to keep it



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Date: November 5th, 2024 2:47 PM
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outdated concept in some ways because when it was adopted each state was like a mini-sovereign and that's just not true given our current approach to federal power.

otoh, the EC punishes extremist states and rewards moderate states, and the EC encourages politicians to build broad national coalitions rather than just cherry pick NYC and LA County voters.

i'm a fan of the EC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625936&forum_id=2...id.#48287851)



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Date: November 5th, 2024 2:49 PM
Author: ,.,,.,..,..,..,.,..,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,.,..,.


Don’t worry Trump will lose that too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5625936&forum_id=2...id.#48287862)