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Gun to head: 1994 demographics in perpetuity, or 1994 tech in perpetuity?
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Date: May 13th, 2026 8:59 AM Author: cell phones I like to flatter myself that Im pretty racist, but I think I would freeze tech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883169) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:38 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface You get recognition for a good hypo and having TCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883385) |
Date: May 13th, 2026 9:00 AM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) how is this even a question? 1994 demographics
I'm Liberal btw. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:03 AM Author: cell phones I feel pretty hopeless about cell phones
the people who are populating town square is kind of a problem, but I dont really think we will even have town squares as the internet continues its march. 2007 iphone was some kind of Pearl Harbor, but we cannot even name it yet. Its truly destroying everything that matters. Real dark shit. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:08 AM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) No, the decline of religion (which was happening and inevitable way before phones) is 100x more impactful. "Screens" are just a red herring people fret about so they can pretend it's a less fundamental problem than the nearly 2000 year foundation of Western society evaporating over the course of the last century
They're not good for kids but that's not some unsolvable problem. People want to blame "screens" for all of societies ills now that boomers (the previous scapegoat we all used to deflect from the real issue) are too old to blame. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:42 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface It's not "screens", it's what technology enables humans to do and be. And woe be to he who thinks "screens" have introduced even a fraction of the horror that continued technological advancement will bring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883270) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:05 AM Author: lfo Tech and it is not remotely close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883187) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:40 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface This. Anyone who understands human nature will say this. A million times this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883262) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:10 AM Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6) White (Non-Hispanic): Dropped from roughly 74-75% in the mid-1990s to approximately 57% in 2025. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883208) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:30 AM Author: peeface demographics, not even a question (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883224) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:35 AM Author: woman respecter (locked in) pull the trigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883246) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:36 AM Author: gerry mander idk I kinda liked 1998 tech better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883248) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:14 PM Author: LARPing to online strangers tp(s) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883506) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 9:45 AM Author: Roblox If you freeze at 1994 tech, you might also get 1994 demographics.
No tech book, so no jeets. No gps apps, so fewer illegals making their way across the border. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:39 AM Author: niggerstomper59 (✅🍑) demographics everything else you can fix, but the post-1965 demographic disaster can never ever be fixed |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:43 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface In your view, what's the difference between how tech issues would be resolved versus how a demographic crisis would be resolved? I think it's the opposite (demographics are easier to fix than technology), so definitely interested in your rationale
To be clear: I don't think we have the stomach to fix demographic problems. But I see how they could theoretically be fixed. I don't see even a single avenue for fixing technology though |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:49 AM Author: niggerstomper59 (✅🍑) I would be fine if the world remained in 1994 forever on both dimensions. But tech issues can in an emergency be resolved by breaking things and pulling some plugs. A demographic crisis can only be resolved by very, very grisly means involving huge loss of life or other human misery, civil war, that kind of thing. I'd rather in a crisis pull some plugs rather than kill a bunch of people (or have them kill me). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883398) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:58 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface I think we're way past the point that pulling the plug or smashing a box with a hammer can stop anything
Tech has become the military industrial complex of our time enabling never before seen capabilities to track, disrupt, and interdict "threats," as well as control, manipulate, and enslave entire populations. It's distributed. It runs our economy. It gives people tremendous comfort--the one commodity humans seem to be incapable of sacrificing--while keeping them firmly under the thumb of real authority
That only goes away when the owner of the power transitions out of human hands, and I don't see why it would get any better for us at that point |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:03 AM Author: niggerstomper59 (✅🍑) Yes. This is true. I don't know if it will happen but it is highly plausible. The thing that worries me as much (less drastic outcome, but higher probability) is a total massacre of white collar employment especially the young fresh out of college who will never have a chance, in the same way that china trade totally massacred blue collar employment. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface I think this is definitely coming within our expected lifetimes. The only bright spot is that it might trigger the demographic war. Though at that point it may be more likely to be a war of national origin, national allegiance, and ethnicity than a race war
And in all honesty, I think the modern world shows that shared values and beliefs, and the willingness to live within those values and beliefs, is a million times more important than race. The motherfuckers at the top are selling out their own people, in the classic sense, at rates never before seen |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:57 AM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) technology is ultimately inevitable. there is something hardwired into human DNA to always be doing new shit for better or worse and have to deal with it as we move along. the instinct that resulted in the slow evolution from hunter gatherers clubbing our bros in the skull into civilization is a core part of our species
demographics are a direct byproduct of our immigration policy. maybe in the long run it's destiny that we become a species of grey skinned cyborgs, but that's a very long way off and quite different from "the US is now Upper Mexico" |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:00 AM Author: Fucking Fuckface Seems that we are in agreement in a big picture sense for this hypo (without quibbling about what should or should not be included in "demographics") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883416) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 10:53 AM Author: Claude Debussy need a precise date to be able to consider whether i would be eligible to buy the PlayStation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883402) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:19 AM Author: Richard Ames 1994 tech, easy. And keeping the 1994 tech would also sustain the 1994 demographics for a host of reasons, some of which I will lay out here:
1.) Less need for serf labor in smartphone-enabled "jobs." No Door Dash, no Uber. If you want delivery, you need to hire someone competent (easier when the average IQ is still actually 100 and not everyone is vaping weed all day). If you want a taxi, you need someone who knows the roads and isn't competing with every person who owns a car to pick you up. BUT OH MY CONVENIENCE!! Too much convenience is obviously bad.
2.) More general competence required across the economy. Less abundance of information means you need people who are more adept at dealing with uncertainty and using judgment to make decisions. This requires a higher average IQ across industries. It also selects more for MEN.
3.) Less general malaise because of anhedonia and media addiction. More general friction in life. More texture. More of a need to simply be on the move to get things done and not sit at a desk all day. All of this keeps people happier and also sustains industries that add to the texture of life (newsstands, for instance.)
4.) Less financialization of industry and less of an economy purely driven by transactions. Much more vibrancy to the economy overall. Less outrageous wealth inequality, stronger (actual) middle class that isn't just paper pushing middle management fraud types.
5.) Stories on TV / movies can still have heavy procedural elements instead of just looking at a cell phone screen for an answer. Go watch an episode of Law & Order from 1994, it is amazing.
6.) People being themselves and not just adopting personalities they see online all day on social media on their faggot phones.
7.) Virtually zero trannies because of lack of social contagion and women being insane from Instagram.
8.) Still a feeling of real exploration in the world.
9.) Real and distinct sub-cultures that aren't just farmed for views online. Things develop more organically.
10.) People would be thinner and healthier overall.
Most of this acts as a barrier to importing 90 IQ third worlders. It is the ultimate win-win. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 11:49 AM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) Illegal immigration was basically an unbroken linear march starting in earnest in the 80s. It didn't crest until the mid-2000s pre-ITE (and rose again during Biden), but it has nothing, absolutely fucking nothing, to do with "screens" and everything to do with zero punishment for employers employing illegals. Once farmers realized they have an infinite pool of sub-market wages to draw from it was over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883457) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:20 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface Yeah. Those goddamn farmers and their unbridled powers circa the 1980s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883550) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) People immigrate illegally because they can find work to do and carve out a life. That was happening in earnest long before "smartphones" and we could've easily put a stop to it by punishing the people employing them. We chose not to because that would mean the price of avocados and lawncare and hotel staff goes up 35%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883570) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:27 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface Farmers by the late 20th century are the straw men for much more powerful, much more corporate interests (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866292&forum_id=2...id.#49883586) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:29 PM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) Farmers exert an insane amount of political influence relative to how many of them there are. There's a reason why we carve out endless porkbarrel exceptions specifically for farmers decade after decade.
Farmers are why we had the Bracero program, and they used illegal immigration to replace it.
Obviously it wasn't just them, but they were by far the single largest driver and more importantly the *first* driver of illegal immigration, setting a precedent for other business owners to not fear employing illegals.
And all of this was set in motion long before anyone had a PDA or whatever. |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:49 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface The Bracero program underscores why farmers aren't the real drivers of the problem. They were totally cool with seasonal farm labor coming in when needed and, more importantly, going back when not. It ended not because farmers demanded illegal alien labor, but because organized labor protested against it
The question to ask is why did government largely turn a blind eye to illegals for so long. I don't think it was the farmers. Besides, if the farmers had the clout you say, they would have treated it just like every other farm-friendly program and codified the preference into law |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 12:25 PM Author: woman respecter (locked in) #2 and #3 are so true but so hard to communicate
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