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Date: October 24th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: .,.,.,....., 1. You fucked up bigly rigging the 2020 primaries. I know "Trump is existential threat to planet earth", etc., but you got high on your own supply. THAT is the bullshit you feed the sheep to keep them terrified and voting. YOUR BOSSES were not supposed to believe it. But they did, and acted all panicky in January-Feb 2020. You kneecapped Bernie, both demoted and promoted Butti, and just generally were up to all kinds of hysteric nonsense before you just drew the curtain down mid-primary and handed it all to Joe.
Obama had been clear with you guys: "Joe sucks". And you could already do the actuarial math. He would not make it to 2024, much less a second term.
BIG mistake, and youre paying right now and will for some time.
2. Knowing Joe was half-senile in 2020, unlikely to live a full term and certainly incapable of keeping a working brain a full-term, you let some SHITLIBS force a DEI veep pick. That never should have happened. You desperately needed a presidential veep. You fucked that up bigly, paying right now.
3. By spring 2023 you knew what you had, and had PLENTY of time to communicate in no uncertain terms, "Joe, youre not running again." You let him think the choice was his and he made it. Then you swooped in, a year and a half too late, to "remake" his decision.
You could have gilded Joe's legacy by making sure he announced he was a one-termer, and stress-tested the next nominee via primaries. This was also a way to deal with your black woman problem, by allowing Kamala to run but annihilating her in the primaries.
You fucked that up bigly.
3. Even as late as July 2024, you could have had a contested convention and probably President Newsom. Oops.
4. Finally, just on a policy point: Trump has one issue. Immigration. You may have been able to defang him forever simply by being semi-reasonable on the border. Maybe don't exactly throw the gates entirely open. Just do Clinton/Obama shit on the border. Not even that hard. Surely don't hand Trump his signature issue with an historical AVALANCHE of illegals. You really fucked that up.
Anyway, enjoy red scotus till 2050 |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:43 PM Author: Muscadine wine #2 is probably the biggest. They put all these resources to fortify Biden into the WH in 2020, but didn't have any plan for what to do if Biden didn't make it through his first term (which he basically didn't). Harris sucks, and has always sucked. They had to have known that it wouldn't be as easy to fortify the 2024 election, the playbook is out in the open now and there's tech guys like Musk who aren't on board. If they had a serviceable VP, I think they win this election (probably no problem). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235556) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:37 PM Author: .,.,.,....., agreed.
these are really smart people with billions of dollars, an army of propagandists and a clear mission: oust trump forever.
I get they had a lot attack vectors (we indict him, jail him, assassinate him) and were feeling confident, but someone should have been saying, "he might not go away. what about 2024?"
someone else in the room should have said, "yeah, speaking of 2024, you guys realize Joe won't make it that far, right?"
ALL of which would be solved by a solid veep pick. Hell, if and when Joe stumbles, pass the torch and you've got an incumbent.
Letting some shitlib dykes take over and proclaim: JOE WILL PICK A WOC, EVEN ONE WHO POLLED AT 0% was really dumb, given everything that was already apparent |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 7:35 PM Author: Candy Ride I think #3 is bigger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48236827) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:44 PM Author: """'""""'' Date: October 24th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: .,.,.,.....,
1. You fucked up bigly rigging the 2020 primaries. I know "Trump is existential threat to planet earth", etc., but you got high on your own supply. THAT is the bullshit you feed the sheep to keep them terrified and voting. YOUR BOSSES were not supposed to believe it. But they did, and acted all panicky in January-Feb 2020. You kneecapped Bernie, both demoted and promoted Butti, and just generally were up to all kinds of hysteric nonsense before you just drew the curtain down mid-primary and handed it all to Joe. Obama had been clear with you guys: "Joe sucks". And you could already do the actuarial math. He would not make it to 2024, much less a second term.
BIG mistake, and youre paying right now and will for some time.
2. Knowing Joe was half-senile in 2020, unlikely to live a full term and certainly incapable of keeping a working brain a full-term, you let some SHITLIBS force a DEI veep pick. That never should have happened. You desperately needed a presidential veep. You fucked that up bigly, paying right now.
3. By spring 2023 you knew what you had, and had PLENTY of time to communicate in no uncertain terms, "Joe, youre not running again." You let him think the choice was his and he made it. Then you swooped in, a year and a half too late, to "remake" his decision.
You could have gilded Joe's legacy by making sure he announced he was a one-termer, and stress-tested the next nominee via primaries. This was also a way to deal with your black woman problem, by allowing Kamala to run but annihilating her in the primaries.
You fucked that up bigly.
3. Even as late as July 2024, you could have had a contested convention and probably President Newsom. Oops.
4. Finally, just on a policy point: Trump has one issue. Immigration. You may have been able to defang him forever simply by being semi-reasonable on the border. Maybe don't exactly throw the gates entirely open. Just do Clinton/Obama shit on the border. Not even that hard. Surely don't hand Trump his signature issue with an historical AVALANCHE of illegals. You really fucked that up.
Anyway, enjoy red scotus till 2050
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2#48235355 |
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Date: October 25th, 2024 1:10 AM Author: ''"'''"''"' 4. Finally, just on a policy point: Trump has one issue. Immigration.
Jewish power wants whites to be a minority in 10 years. Elections suck and are stressful so just turbo charge demographic change. |
Date: October 24th, 2024 2:37 PM Author: .,.,.,....., (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235532) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:40 PM Author: butt cheeks (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) "enjoy red scotus till 2050" reading that made me so happy |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:46 PM Author: MASE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235572) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:42 PM Author: MASE Soo funny that they could have just let Trump win in 2020, and he would done with by now, you could have used media to cement his Presidency as historically weak, he would have never learned how to put together a great team for his administration, and you could have nominated a real killer to assert complete control in 2024. But no. now you'll get: -An even redder SCOTUS -An even more effective and angry Trump with personnel problems solved -A cementing of MAGA as the dominant political movement of our times -Probable loss in the next Presidential election |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:42 PM Author: Zionists for Karlstack I think this is getting into Hillary 2016 territory. We still have to win at least one of PA or WI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235549) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:44 PM Author: """'""""'' Date: October 24th, 2024 2:42 PM Author: Zionists for Karlstack
I think this is getting into Hillary 2016 territory. We still have to win at least one of PA or WI
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2#48235549) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:50 PM Author: Slaanesh It’s reverse Obama 2012
False hope for one party against someone who will obviously win |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 2:45 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband Number 4 is cr, but the “post mortem” will actually be “why do we keep running this orange retard, and why are we going to nominate him again in 2028?” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235567) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:26 PM Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard no way he runs again in 2028 no matter what happens (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235749) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 8:31 PM Author: Bill (((Goldberg))) Sorry slapnuts, we're repealing the 22nd.
Get ready for 8 years of TRUMP. |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 9:49 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Hey EPAH why do you keep "missing" this thread brother?
https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617148&mc=4&forum_id=2 |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 10:17 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband I work for a living, champ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48237464) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 10:20 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
CR
OK so anyway since you're here now, "please respond" ITT and let's get something going tyia |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 10:23 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband I have to leave very soon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48237484) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 10:24 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Darn! |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:11 PM Author: UhOh nailed it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235694) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:20 PM Author: MASE This thread is soooooo 180 Will be bumping on election night |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:21 PM Author: UhOh the real question (which we all know the answer to) is will shitlibs hold them accountable with a maga type movement. they got fucked in ass on bernie and now bukkaked on kamala. how much more humiliation can they take? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235728) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:22 PM Author: butt cheeks (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) No. They will blame "misogyny" and similar for at least 4-6 years afterwards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235735) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:22 PM Author: MASE They were given their MAGA type movement with Bernie and they did everything they could to smother it in its crib.
If they liked sowing, they're going to LOVE reaping. |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:39 PM Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235820) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:27 PM Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235752) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:22 PM Author: posting in histrionic thread The Dems observed that Joe and Kamala "won" by 7 million votes despite having no inherent popularity and campaigning from Joe's basement. Candidate attributes almost don't matter compared to the effectiveness of their get-out-the-vote campaigns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235733) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 8:33 PM Author: Slaanesh People were annoyed at Trump and disgruntled as fuck over the nigger riots and COVID. Trump's style does not play well at all during a time like COVID and they leveraged that to effectively attack him. Combine that with massively loosened mail in voting and people bored as fuck with nothing else to do and a media that was 1100% all day propaganda
It was shocking Trump came as close as he came to winning. |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:27 PM Author: ....,,....,,... Kamala is going to win with ballot harvesting. Idk why everyone here is celebrating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235759) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:30 PM Author: butt cheeks (🍑 Pronouns: Ausländer/Raus döp dödö döp) I'm very worried about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235771) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 3:40 PM Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard it'll be too difficult to pull off this time around because this isn't a universal vote by mail election. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48235827) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 7:28 PM Author: Blackpill Bob People don't want to face the harsh reality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48236803) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 7:29 PM Author: Soren "Bob" Odenkierkegaard I certainly don't, I guess I'm giving into delusions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48236806) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 7:45 PM Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,..., It's not going to be close enough this time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48236850) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 9:39 PM Author: Zionists for Karlstack I think Elon owning twitter and funding a sane legal strategy (instead of having Sydney Powell screaming about "the Kraken") means they can't do it, at least not without total loss of legitimacy. And when even CNN is attacking Harris, they aren't willing to totally concede legitimacy for her (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48237313) |
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Date: October 25th, 2024 12:05 AM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; 1) lol at thinking Elon is some sort of upgrade in terms of litigation strategy. The dude is a lot of things, but mostly the opposite of the type of exec/billionaire that can lawfare well. The whole reason he’s all in for Trump is that he knows he will be pwn3d by shitlib lawfare if Trump loses. 2) the most important difference between 2020 and 2024 is that now shitlibs control all the executive branch offices in PA, Mich, Wisc and AZ and the WH, so they get to make all the “close calls” to “protect democracy” which is likely worth at least a point or two in each swing state.
Trump’s going to lose, and his only option will be redneck rebellion, but he will quickly learn that his red necks are 66% fat old boomers and 50+ Gen Xers who can’t do shit about it, and 33% the kinds of pathetic dorks who listen to 10+ hours of manosphere podcasts every week, also can’t do shit about really anything. This is the downside of trying to be king of a society’s losers. Once you have to depend on your losers to help you get fucked. |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 7:46 PM Author: ....,,....,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.......,.,.,.,.,..,. Biden was the correct pick in 2020. He won after all. Kamala was the worst possible VP choice. It was obvious from her failed primary campaign she could never lead the ticket successfully, but she was too powerful and diverse to pass over.
The clear lesson for Dems is they need a competitive primary. Letting Hillary clear the field in 2016 was disastrous (Biden would have beat her), and now 2024 is even worse. In 2020 Biden was at least forced to prove he could hang around. |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 8:07 PM Author: sph #2 was the real mistake. Running Biden against Trump in 2020 made sense at the time and it worked. It was a good decision. But he was obviously old, and while it was not a forgone conclusion that Biden would be unable to campaign in 2024 while Trump was still going strong, it was certainly foreseeable. More broadly, given Biden's age and condition in 2020 it was readily foreseeable that he might become unable to carry on at any time, however inconvenient, and that his deterioration might be rapid.
It was obvious that his VP needed to be popular and a proven campaigner who could pick up a campaign quickly under any circumstances and either run as a continuation of Biden's administration or a break from it, whatever is needed. It was also obvious that this person needed to be kept in the public eye and their popularity cultivated over Biden's term.
Harris may yet win, but the Democrats made this way closer than it needed to be. |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 9:58 PM Author: Florida Surgeon General Joseph A. Ladapo funny thing is Republicans are about to face an almost identical scenario (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48237404) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:30 PM Author: Bill (((Goldberg))) JD's favorables are surging and are much higher than kamala's were before the manufactured media joyfest. I thought the guy was terrible during his convention speech but he has really been owning the libs and killed it in the debate, which was the point at which all kamala momentum died and trump started surging. He's nowhere near the liability that kamala is. Plus, Trump was also potentially picking the 2028 nominee, and all of the choices that gave him better electoral odds this time around would have virtually guaranteed uniparty rule from 2028 on. With Vance it's more of a question mark. Doug Burgum was not going to pick up the MAGA banner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48237620) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 10:20 PM Author: ZurichSTACH Scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48237473) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:11 PM Author: .;.;.;..,,....,;.;..;.;..;..,,.;.;.;......;...., This is going to be bumped for years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48237584) |
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Date: October 24th, 2024 11:15 PM Author: MASE I’m sure it will. It’s very prescient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5617383&forum_id=2...id.#48237593) |