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My professional wrestling Mt. Rushmore ITT
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:03 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi The Rock Stone Cold Steve Austin John Cena Roman Reigns |
Date: July 7th, 2024 4:05 PM Author: cracking theater half-breed LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47817953) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:08 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi my mt rushmore is 180
poast yours |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:20 PM Author: cracking theater half-breed Hogan flair stone cold mr. McMahon
Probably needs someone friend the 60s/70s but I don't know how to exclude those 4 |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:24 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi you can take out John Cena and add in Hogan on my mt. rushmore.
Vince is the greatest promoter of all time, but he was never the biggest draw.
I guess I'm basing my Mt. Rushmore on drawing power and the top four draws in the history of the business would be Hulk, Stone Cold, The Rock, and Roman Reigns.
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:28 PM Author: cracking theater half-breed You can't write the story of pro wrestling without Vince, Hogan, or flair. I think Austin is the best of the rest, though if the rock had committed 100% he'd probably be in.
Reigns/Cena are fine rasslers, and I personally love Cena in his other roles, but they are not essential to the history of wrestling like the others |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:31 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi Ric Flair is grossly overrated in terms of his drawing power.
I disagree w/re to Reings -- he's taken pro-wrestling to its greatest heights and is largely responsible for WWE's current 10 billion dollar valuation.
It was on the shoulders of the Rock and Stone Cold and Hogan and modern pro wrestling is vince's creation -- but Reigns is arguably the biggest draw of all time in terms of dollars and eyeballs on the product. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:37 PM Author: cracking theater half-breed I understand your love for reigns, I just don't think he's as important as flair.
Just like Bonds and Clemens wouldn't be on my MLB Rushmore (dgaf about roids), because they weren't more important than Mays and Cy Young (or W. Johnson or Mathewson) even though they were better players |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:46 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi Flair is one of the best for sure, but, if there were no ric flair-- pro wrestling would still be what it is today.
I can't imagine pro wrestling without Hogan, Rock, Stone Cold, Cena, and Reigns |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:52 PM Author: cracking theater half-breed I was most into pro wrestling during the height of stone cold and the rock. They're my two favorite all timers, easily. But I think you need to pick one from that era.
Maybe you have a point about flair but he was big for so fucking long and kept the non-wwf segment alive for decades almost singlehandedly.
IDK how you can not include Vince. He should probably be the first and easiest choice. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:04 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi Pro Wrestling IS Vince -- its hard for me to quantify him and rank him - he transcends all that -- its like putting the American flag or the Constitution on Mt. Rushmore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818156) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:04 PM Author: Overrated round eye theatre Reigns possibly eclipses Cena as being the first guy since Rock/Austin to really feel bigger than WWE.
Cena was supercena and could beat anyone, but it always seemed like he was playing the same sport as everyone else
Reigns level of dominance was sustained for so long that they made a backup world title as a consolation prize for the guys with no chance of even touching Reign's title.
Cena was Lebron James. Reigns was Michael Jordan. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:05 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi I agree with this wholeheartedly. MFCR take (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818158) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:18 PM Author: Low-t pit goyim stone cold vince macho man piper |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:19 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi legit list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818004) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 10:32 PM Author: Burgundy Institution Marketing Idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818983) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:25 PM Author: hairraiser olive corner Andre, Hogan, Stone Cold, Rock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818026) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:29 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi I was an infant when Andre was peak-- was he that big of a deal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818037) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:48 PM Author: Turquoise Vibrant Set Dog Poop He was extremely big in every sense of the word, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818703) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:46 PM Author: Citrine twisted state stock car Titcr. Lol at not including the giant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818109) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:35 PM Author: frum locus pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818216) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 10:26 PM Author: floppy church multi-billionaire take off the rock and put on macho man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818967) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 10:44 PM Author: hairraiser olive corner ridiculous. Rock has been a main event for 20+ years. macho man lasted 5. he never even beat hogan - that was the ultimate warrior. besides, no jews on the list. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47819010) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:04 AM Author: alcoholic walnut internal respiration range the only CR itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47819311) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:29 PM Author: scarlet insane theater stage Ric Flair Shawn Michaels Bret Hart Terry Funk |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:31 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi lot of ric flair love
You're workrate guy? |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:36 PM Author: onyx razzle-dazzle temple water buffalo Replace Cena and Reigns with Hogan and Flair.
My personal:
(1) HBK: Best in-ring performer of all-time. His portfolio of great matches is unparalleled.
(2) Undertaker: Longevity, character (and continuous reinvention of it to keep it fresh), and severely underrated in-ring ability. Gets a major bump for being in the greatest match of all-time, Taker vs. HBK WM25.
(3) Bret Hart: The epitome of a professional wrestler and easily the best technical wrestler of all-time. Would have rivaled HBK for best ever had Goldberg not prematurely ended his career.
(4) Rob Van Dam: To me, he's the most innovative wrestler ever. Had a major influence on an entire generation of wrestlers in a way I don't think anyone can claim. Watch any AEW, NJPW, or indie card and you will see the DNA of RVD vs. Jerry Lynn in every match.
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:42 PM Author: cracking theater half-breed We didn't share any picks and I still love this list.
I think these might be the "best" but not the most "important" which is what I think of for Rushmore inclusion |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:47 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi MFCR, great fucking list. RVD "one of a kind" wasn't just a gimmick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818110) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:54 PM Author: cracking theater half-breed Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818130) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:36 PM Author: frum locus pocket flask Are we talking about in ring performance only? Schtick? Influence and legacy?
Hard to argue with a list like:
Austin Hogan Rock Andre
Would like to slide Flair in there. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:44 PM Author: cracking theater half-breed You've asked an important question snoot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818099) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:44 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi Im going off of pure drawing power
Leaving Hogan off might be a mistake on my end -- but his star power has waned a lot.
He's responsible for the wrestling boom -- first with WWF and then his heel turn ignited WCW for a very short while.
I put John Cena ahead of him because Cena's run was longer, more sustained, and drew more money than Hogan's run. There's an entire generation of kids that will have nothing but fond memories of Cena and will never see him slumming it in TNA or mired in controversy. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:47 PM Author: Citrine twisted state stock car Rock is the Teddy Roosevelt of the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818694) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:45 PM Author: French thriller laser beams Haven't watched since early 00's, but this would be mine
Hulk Hogan Undertaker Bret Hart Shawn Michaels |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:49 PM Author: Irradiated narrow-minded hall HBK - no one can match his in-ring ability. He was also very good on the mic, especially as a heel. Austin - charisma, mic skills are unmatched. He was also a very good wrestler before his neck injury. His match with HBK at KOTR 97 was excellent. Hogan - his best run imo was 95-00 as Hollywood Hogan. Bret Hart - in ring ability 2nd only to HBK.
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:07 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi I have Bret Hart ahead of Michaels as in ring worker
Hogan's hollywood hogan run peaked in 96 and then fell of a cliff by 98 |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:38 PM Author: frum locus pocket flask Hogan was pushing 50 by that time. He could have left wrestling altogether after leaving WWF and it would have no impact on his legacy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818219) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:11 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi His legacy was definitely bolstered by his Hollywood Hogan run. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818563) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:15 PM Author: frum locus pocket flask ok but it peaked at strarrcade '97. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47819097) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:58 PM Author: Overrated round eye theatre Hogan Austin (bigger than The Rock other than in 2000) Cena Reigns (might get bumped by Cody) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:05 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi Cody's reign has been very underwhelming so far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818159) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:34 PM Author: frum locus pocket flask Rey Mysterio Billy Kidman Ultimo Dragon Juventud |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:42 PM Author: onyx razzle-dazzle temple water buffalo (7th grade me having the time of my life with WCW/nWo Revenge on a Saturday night)
But seriously Rey Jr. and Ultimo absolutely deserve recognition. Both are historically important internationally. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:11 PM Author: violent submissive fanboi cr but any mention of Juventud reminds me of the Rock's promo on Jericho
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Date: July 7th, 2024 9:34 PM Author: onyx razzle-dazzle temple water buffalo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGsBRImD0po
All-time great promo by Y2J. Apparently, he just threw it together the night before. Also, world class frowning by The Rock during that promo lol. |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:26 PM Author: frum locus pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818620) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:45 PM Author: Lemon Principal's Office Double Fault Hogan Flair Rock HBK |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 6:26 PM Author: Bistre trailer park 1. HBK
2-4 are up for debate or a matter of personal preference.
HTH |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 10:20 PM Author: Impertinent Fat Ankles Plaza No list can be taken seriously without hogan flair Austin. Fourth can be argued but prob one of vince rock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47818954) |
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Date: July 7th, 2024 11:45 PM Author: frum locus pocket flask Of course it can. I love flair but insisting he has to be on the list is nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47819200) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 1:06 AM Author: alcoholic walnut internal respiration range this. Flair spent majority of his career in the minors (wcw). he's great, but the wwf is the only league that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551789&forum_id=2...id.#47819314) |
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Date: July 8th, 2024 8:21 AM Author: scarlet insane theater stage So did Sting and he’s hovering right on the outside of the top 5.
Some of Hogans best work was as heel Hollywood Hogan. |