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Pence and Pompeo in the WSJ: We must attack and invade Iran
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:06 PM Author: Bossy parlor https://www.wsj.com/articles/pence-pompeo-its-time-to-strike-back-at-iran-for-american-soldiers-killed-in-jordan-42c9307d
It’s Time to Strike Back at Iran Appeasement has failed. The U.S. needs to restore deterrence in the Middle East and elsewhere.
image Over the past three years, President Biden’s diplomats have repeatedly made overtures and concessions to Iran, which has only emboldened the regime’s aggressive behavior. The Biden administration rolled back the Trump administration’s maximum-pressure strategy, agreed to a $6 billion ransom payment for five American hostages, allowed Iran to export more oil to China than ever, and removed the Houthis’ terrorist designation. Worse, the Biden administration has continued trying to revive the Iran nuclear deal, which would put Tehran back on the fast track to obtaining nuclear weapons.
The result of this appeasement is war, beginning Oct. 7 with Hamas’s atrocities against Israel. In the four months since, the Biden administration has continued to resort to appeasement by declining to respond forcefully to Iran’s escalation and attacks.
The mullahs have unceremoniously snapped every olive branch Mr. Biden and his diplomats extended. It is past time to accept that this approach has utterly failed and cost American lives. To keep our soldiers and our nation safe, the Biden administration must adopt a more robust stance toward Iran.
The mullahs understand only strength. In addition to canceling the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the Trump administration launched a campaign of maximum pressure that included the enforcement of crippling sanctions on Iran. We didn’t hesitate to take decisive action to stop Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani when he threatened American lives. By 2020, the Iranian regime was more isolated than ever. Both its capacity and its will to plunge the region into chaos were at an all-time low.
Only by returning to maximum pressure can the U.S. restore stability to the region and adequately protect the lives of American service members and our allies. We encourage the Biden administration to revoke the $10 billion sanctions waiver it reissued in November. The regime in Tehran uses these funds to finance terror, death and suffering across the Mideast. As the leader of the free world, the president must also call on international banks to seize the funds of all Iranian proxies operating in the region.
No one wants war; every decent person despises it. This is why we in the Trump administration built a model of deterrence that successfully kept America’s adversaries from engaging in aggression. That model of deterrence has been allowed to decay in favor of appeasement and, as a result, the costs necessary to resurrect it have risen, not only in the Middle East, but around the world.
Our first step should be to respond to Iran’s deadly attacks with devastating strikes: not only to end Tehran’s escalation and keep American soldiers safe, but to begin re-establishing the model of deterrence that keeps war at bay. The U.S. military must destroy high-value Iranian targets, including Tehran’s nuclear program, navy and oil infrastructure. Telegraphed strikes on empty warehouses achieve nothing. Appeasement has never worked a single time in history, and it won’t work now.
The safety and security of the nation and its citizens must always remain paramount. Those who volunteer to defend our freedoms shouldn’t be left to fend for themselves. Those who make the ultimate sacrifice in service to our country deserve justice. And those who dare to threaten America’s interests deserve a reminder that they’ll regret it.
Mr. Pence served as vice president of the United States, 2017-21. Mr. Pompeo served as secretary of state, 2018-21. |
Date: February 9th, 2024 12:06 PM Author: Bossy parlor >>> No one wants war; every decent person despises it.
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>>Our first step should be to respond to Iran’s deadly attacks with devastating strikes: not only to end Tehran’s escalation and keep American soldiers safe, but to begin re-establishing the model of deterrence that keeps war at bay. The U.S. military must destroy high-value Iranian targets, including Tehran’s nuclear program, navy and oil infrastructure. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 4:05 PM Author: Thriller lemon death wish pence was like 90% of the trump white house "leaks" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47385273) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 4:08 PM Author: Bipolar mad-dog skullcap market What leaks? I honestly don't remember any big ones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47385297) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 7:09 PM Author: Thriller lemon death wish cr what daily/hourly leaks goy? they werent big even! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47385895) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:09 PM Author: mind-boggling dun field someone put all these israeli-cuck neocons out of their misery (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384362) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:10 PM Author: Vigorous sable hell To be fair,
I would LOVE to see America try to wage a fullscale war against Iran. Let's fucking go. Not sure it will "work out" the way these Kike Neocons and Good Goys think it will, but I'd love to see it! |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:13 PM Author: Bossy parlor I hope we do it so that Iran nukes Tel Aviv for us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384379) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:14 PM Author: Vigorous sable hell To be fair,
No I'm sure that just like all of the millions of pissed off and armed white guys in America who will never do anything until they are eventually rounded up with their families by really smart Jews and led off to the death camps to die, over in Tehran they're actually just a bunch of total pussies who also won't ever actually "do anything" no matter how much we push and prod them.
A bunch of really smart Jews on XO have smugly assured me that's the case.
And it turns out that, according to really smart Jews, only really smart Jews actually have the balls to ever do anything in this world -- it's basically settled political science and only "total retards" would disagree.
And I mean, YOU'RE not, like, a "total retard" or something... are you champ? ;) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:38 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home "But they weren't supposed to have nukes!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384515) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:52 PM Author: electric boiling water I don't. Tired of these fucking kikes killing innocent brown people for bloodsport. Fuck all of them to hell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384573) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:24 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home I kind of feel like this is going to keep going until we do something stupid like get into a war with China, lose badly, and then stop pretending like we run the world.
But aside from that, holy shit that this guy was our VP. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:24 PM Author: Bossy parlor It will continue until every Jew is extirpated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384444) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:30 PM Author: Plum stimulating gas station When/if the US loses an actual war (and I dont count GWOT or Vietnam bc those were counterinsurgencies), it will cease to exist as a nation. The psyche of the country could not handle a loss. It would fracture. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384479) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:31 PM Author: Vigorous sable hell To be fair,
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2#47384368 |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:32 PM Author: Plum stimulating gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384488) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:38 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384516) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:30 PM Author: Adventurous forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384710) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:36 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home I think the US would lose against Iran but we would do well enough for our leaders to claim that they just wanted to punish Iran or whatever and that it wasn't a real loss.
I think we would outright lose to China if we went to war against them over Taiwan. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:47 PM Author: Plum stimulating gas station Agreed.
The US would be fighting a limited war with limited aims against Iran. We dont have a good track record in that type of conflict.
We would be fighting an unlimited war with limited aims against China. This plays more to our strength, but we would lose a war of attrition.
Imagine if China invades Taiwan and successfully destroys a large portion of the US Navy? They could then theoretically take Guam and threaten Hawaii and there would be little we could do to stop them. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:50 PM Author: Bipolar mad-dog skullcap market China's actual military, when put in to service, is probably pure shit. It's full of rejects who narrowly avoided prison because some local official needed to hit his "recruitment" quota. It's not considered a prestigious career field over there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384566) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:54 PM Author: Plum stimulating gas station This is wishful and naive handwaving.
They will learn quickly. This is borne out by history. The US got their shit pushed in by the Japanese Navy in the early years. We had the ability to absorb those losses, learn, and keep fighting.
The Chinks have the industrial base to replace losses. They will learn. We can’t replace losses. If we lose ships at even 1/10th of the rate we did in WWII we’ll be out of them in a few months. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 8:44 PM Author: Bipolar mad-dog skullcap market I mean in this in all sincerity, aside from military parade footage, you cannot find a video or even a STILL IMAGE of the PLA with more than dozen people in the image, and that's on the high side. A lot of weapons appear to be pure vaporware too. The only countries they claim to export to are Pakistan, and in one case they claim to have sold some shit to Sudan. Pakistan is also super secretive about the whole thing, and it's not clear they actually take delivery of any of these chink weapons at all.
So for example China claims to have cranked out 300+ copies of some modern jet. HUNDREDS. Actual confirmed footage of this jet at an airshow or something is impossible to find though. All you'll get is CGI propaganda. Satellite photos suggest something like 25 have actually been produced, which also happens to be the number China claims it is exporting to Pakistan.
We also used to get leaked footage out of China once in a while, and one of these same modern jets had crashed into a canal and someone filmed the burning wreck. IDK how that got out but it was recent. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 8:50 PM Author: Bipolar mad-dog skullcap market Here we go:
Number built 210~250+
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-20 |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:31 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home Ok, how is it compared to when they had shortages of everything from food, weapons, ammo and equipment and STILL pushed US troops back in Korea to a stalemate?
The US has a fundamental problem in a war with China in that no one here is willing to die for it. Maybe if China was launching a full scale of the US some people would be willing to fight and die but short of that, no one is willing to die for the status of Taiwan and "related geopolitical considerations." In China, OTOH, they are fighting for a part of what they see as their own land. The see the US as a country fighting to control their land. That puts them at an inherent advantage. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 3:59 PM Author: Bipolar mad-dog skullcap market That was a battle hardened army. No one alive today remembers any of that WWII-era shit or cares.
Anyway this is a stupid hypo. Taiwan will capitulate before shots are fired. An actual invasion of Taiwan would take six months to stage and would look retarded as fuck in execution. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:33 PM Author: Adventurous forum We can't build anything anymore. We'd get fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384727) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 4:04 PM Author: Bipolar mad-dog skullcap market It's not clear what China can build as far as aircraft and naval ships or any of that shit. They are sending shitloads of drones to Russia and some comms equipment, but that's it. Their jet production figures seem to be inflated by at least 10x. They released a video showing a dood taking off from their carrier but no footage of anyone landing on it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47385267) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:28 PM Author: mind-boggling dun field "we do something stupid like get into a war with China, lose badly, and then stop pretending like we run the world"
Honestly the best possible outcome for the US. |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 4:07 PM Author: Bipolar mad-dog skullcap market Korematsu has NOT been overturned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47385289) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 10:04 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47386373) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:29 PM Author: Bossy parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384471) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:31 PM Author: mahogany heady degenerate voyeur nimarata wants censorship and war with iran right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384484) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:31 PM Author: Bossy parlor Correct
It’s amazing to see Bush era neocons still grasping for power on behalf of their kike overlords |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:37 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home Let's be honest, she's just a grifter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384512) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:38 PM Author: Bossy parlor They all are, and the kikes are their paymasters facilitating the grift (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384514) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:37 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home A war with Iran, Russia and China. Probably Venezuela and NK too, because why not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384508) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:37 PM Author: Bossy parlor Raytheon needs to beat earnings my man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384511) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:38 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384517) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:19 PM Author: Duck-like stead milk Why aren't Jews happy with the two wars they have now? They went several years with none, and now they have two. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384678) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:21 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home They never forgave Trump for those several years where he was just focused on winding down wars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384684) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:26 PM Author: Duck-like stead milk Even the embassy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384698) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:32 PM Author: Lascivious nursing home "yeah yeah, ya moved an embassy, but what have ya done since then?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384723) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:39 PM Author: cruel-hearted casino Why are either of these two losers still acting like their opinion matters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384519) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:44 PM Author: exhilarant temple azn So the tl;dr is "let's start a war to prevent a war"?
Seems cr. What could possibly go wrong?
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Date: February 9th, 2024 12:49 PM Author: Bossy parlor Die for Israel, friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384554) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 1:20 PM Author: Duck-like stead milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384680) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 6:30 PM Author: excitant cruise ship doctorate Tldr is Pompeo is shook and hiding like a ho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47385768) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 2:35 PM Author: Bossy parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384932) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 2:46 PM Author: Swashbuckling ruddy shitlib range i'd support a reality show where we drop both these faggots alone into tehran with a standard issue rifle and just see what plays out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47384963) |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 4:26 PM Author: mewling cheese-eating rigor kitchen "Appeasement has never worked a single time in history, and it won’t work now."
so they flat-out don't think that diplomacy exists? i bet if they were pressed on the 'appeasement' point, they would unblinkingly spout 'neville chamberlain,' even though he was desperately trying to stall for time since he knew that the UK military was in no shape to fight a major conflict in the late-1930's.
these guys are probably being blackmailed, aren't they? |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 4:27 PM Author: Vigorous sable hell To be fair,
*Briefcase full of explicit hardcore child pornography pops open* |
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Date: February 9th, 2024 6:29 PM Author: Duck-like stead milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#47385763) |
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Date: June 18th, 2025 11:35 AM Author: '"''"''''''''"""'" I guess they both won in the end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5488605&forum_id=2...id.#49028165) |