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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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saffron stead
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
High-end locale jap
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
High-end locale jap
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Stirring milk
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Fragrant blue resort
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Dun area associate
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Godawful home
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
indecent property
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
marvelous church national security agency
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Dun area associate
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
marvelous church national security agency
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
marvelous church national security agency
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Carnelian karate business firm
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
brass idea he suggested
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Soul-stirring rose theater stage
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Godawful home
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
saffron stead
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
walnut mind-boggling community account
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
rusted useless brakes
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Orchid Crackhouse
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
saffron stead
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Bat-shit-crazy Brunch
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Dun area associate
  06/26/25
...
Judgmental free-loading menage selfie
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
thriller friendly grandma
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Idiotic yarmulke
  06/26/25
...
Lime dashing center
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
buck-toothed lodge
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Hot New Version Hell
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Medicated tantric stock car step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Dun area associate
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Hot New Version Hell
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Dun area associate
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Godawful home
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
indecent property
  06/27/25
...
Dun area associate
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
fiercely-loyal vivacious idiot field
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Hot New Version Hell
  06/27/25
...
lascivious fat ankles
  06/27/25
...
Dun area associate
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Medicated tantric stock car step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
How is STB?
indecent property
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
diverse house personal credit line
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Godawful home
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
thriller friendly grandma
  06/27/25
...
Adventurous arrogant site prole
  06/27/25
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Godawful home
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: saffron stead

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Dun area associate

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: High-end locale jap

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Dun area associate

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: High-end locale jap

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Stirring milk

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Fragrant blue resort

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Dun area associate

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Godawful home

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: indecent property

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: marvelous church national security agency

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Dun area associate

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: marvelous church national security agency

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: marvelous church national security agency

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Dun area associate

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Carnelian karate business firm

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Dun area associate

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Dun area associate

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Dun area associate

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: brass idea he suggested

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Soul-stirring rose theater stage

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Godawful home

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Dun area associate

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: saffron stead

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Dun area associate

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: walnut mind-boggling community account

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: rusted useless brakes

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Orchid Crackhouse

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: saffron stead

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Brunch

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Dun area associate

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Judgmental free-loading menage selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: thriller friendly grandma

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Idiotic yarmulke

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Lime dashing center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: buck-toothed lodge

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Hot New Version Hell

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Medicated tantric stock car step-uncle's house

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Dun area associate

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Hot New Version Hell

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Dun area associate

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Godawful home

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: indecent property

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Dun area associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal vivacious idiot field

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Hot New Version Hell

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: lascivious fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Dun area associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Medicated tantric stock car step-uncle's house

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: indecent property

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: diverse house personal credit line

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Godawful home

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: thriller friendly grandma

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Adventurous arrogant site prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Godawful home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053817)