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Alasdair MacIntyre: “the new dark ages which are already upon us”

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me. “...
Federal Jap Wrinkle
  02/16/21
link plz
Effete shitlib patrolman
  03/29/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue
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  03/29/21
"construction of local forms of community within which ...
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*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*
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this is a second Renaissance
Fuchsia piazza ratface
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just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory towe...
scarlet mood wagecucks
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Harsh but fair
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After Virtue is 180
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  02/16/21
he is 180
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  02/16/21
That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs ...
Federal Jap Wrinkle
  02/16/21
link? what books of his have you read?
cerebral shrine
  02/16/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://you...
Federal Jap Wrinkle
  02/16/21
The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans
Hateful forum round eye
  02/16/21
Hard to make a distinction by the end.
Federal Jap Wrinkle
  02/16/21
only of you're a drunk Roman
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Lol @ premils
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quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient h...
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It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between...
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even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empi...
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i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude ...
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dominicans are unironically natsoc
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Date: February 16th, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me.

“A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead often not recognizing fully what they were doing—was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition is correct, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41954317)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Effete shitlib patrolman

link plz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#42183785)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#42183802)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 11:14 PM
Author: Vibrant Magenta Really Tough Guy

"construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained"

move to the sticks and make good with everyone you can.

sounds good to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43258556)



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Date: March 14th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: tan odious public bath dysfunction



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: Exhilarant Field



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:18 PM
Author: Supple mauve site legal warrant

*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957375)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:26 PM
Author: Fuchsia piazza ratface

this is a second Renaissance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957423)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:28 PM
Author: scarlet mood wagecucks

just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory tower reading classical bullshit and seeing vandals and visigoths everywhere when he ventures outside the campus. charles taylor is tcr communitarian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957439)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:30 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle

Harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957810)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: Domesticated stock car



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: Idiotic insecure church



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:52 PM
Author: Domesticated stock car



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:40 PM
Author: Burgundy indirect expression candlestick maker

After Virtue is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957508)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: cerebral shrine

he is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957816)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:34 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle

That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs really drove home the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957825)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: cerebral shrine

link?

what books of his have you read?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957902)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

https://youtu.be/7_ssRpso9e8?t=2626

This little snippet really drives it home though and makes the leap from seemingly magical tech to us being in a full fledge culture extinction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41958239)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:44 PM
Author: Hateful forum round eye

The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957873)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:46 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle

Hard to make a distinction by the end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41957881)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:37 PM
Author: Flatulent locus preventive strike

only of you're a drunk Roman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41958115)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41963755)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:39 PM
Author: Crystalline dragon

Lol @ premils

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41963758)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41979325)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: cerebral shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#41979396)



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Date: March 2nd, 2021 12:19 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#42034897)



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Date: March 18th, 2021 12:02 AM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#42123274)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#42183777)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: Stirring cocky multi-billionaire

quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient history...it's not the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#42183780)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: Effete shitlib patrolman

It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between one historical period and another; and among the most misleading of such parallels are those which have been drawn between our own age in Europe and North America and the epoch in which the Roman empire declined into the Dark Ages. Nonetheless certain parallels there are. A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead–often not recognizing fully what they were doing–was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us. And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time, however, the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43308041)



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Date: April 14th, 2021 10:16 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: April 30th, 2021 7:19 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:42 AM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:48 AM
Author: Talented obsidian coldplay fan corner

even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empire now have to admit that there is, by any description, no shared purpose. all the "good" things that can happen these days are things that would benefit you or your family. Get comparatively rich, get a better job, etc. No one even considers benefits to the community or "America". And sure as shit no one will accept personal detriment for America's improvement.

This has to be a clear sign that it's over. Im reminded of those videos of Army doods all saying "lol fuck the Army, my recruiter lied, this sucks", rating it as they would a job or college. Imagine asking enlisted men to consider their lives as contributing to America's glory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43235671)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:53 AM
Author: mildly autistic cyan sound barrier office



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: Talented obsidian coldplay fan corner

i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude got pulled out of line. "are you dominican?" they asked him

The dude got all worked up, "me?! Dominican as fuck! Pure blood. Dominican to my core!" etc

Tried to imagine someone being so insulted and prideful about being american, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43235780)



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: Effete shitlib patrolman

dominicans are unironically natsoc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#48015989)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:29 AM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSdnESSU-WRTBliI5nWkh_dlW_H3tOaxC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#43235846)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: March 3rd, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:32 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: submissive gunner



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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: April 25th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: June 3rd, 2023 6:48 PM
Author: Blathering multi-colored selfie dilemma



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:03 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:30 PM
Author: Yapping Amber Pocket Flask Headpube

every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities who carry the flame when the wheels come off.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2...id.#46393785)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 8:33 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: carnelian hall scourge upon the earth



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Federal Jap Wrinkle



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