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Explain people who practice law for 15 years and make $250k
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Date: September 25th, 2024 2:42 PM Author: splenetic location national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131019) |
Date: September 25th, 2024 2:42 PM Author: filthy liquid oxygen police squad Content? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131021) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 2:44 PM Author: Thriller Tank What about those that never crack $250k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131030) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 2:47 PM Author: fiercely-loyal odious range antidepressant drug spaceporn is halfway there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131038) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:40 PM Author: gay zombie-like property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132452) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:47 PM Author: Tan Therapy ? I make more than twice that, idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132479) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 2:47 PM Author: Curious pungent hissy fit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131040) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 3:12 PM Author: splenetic location national security agency After 15 years you should be a partner at a firm or a successful solo practitioner, in either case making well over $250k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131137) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:26 PM Author: Exciting Meetinghouse Mental Disorder some people prefer the big baller of counsel lifestyle to the ills of partnership (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132390) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 12:35 AM Author: splenetic location national security agency Also more than $250k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133038) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 12:10 AM Author: massive garrison nibblets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132984) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:57 AM Author: Citrine Magical Kitchen or alternatively you recognize 250K in most of America puts you easily in the top 5% and you just enjoy your 20 hour work weeks and cush lifestyle while you plow law teens in mesh jorts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134241) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:34 PM Author: razzle-dazzle theater kitty But $250k here just barely gets me a mediocre house and a small shot at a humane retirement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138560) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:47 PM Author: Cocky carnelian weed whacker brunch What about those that got shit out of law and now make $180k doing .NET programming? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132481) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:51 PM Author: Passionate piazza private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132500) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 2:47 PM Author: yellow unhinged base azn Nepotism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131041) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 3:13 PM Author: diverse corner corn cake I make nowhere close to $200k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131139) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 3:14 PM Author: splenetic location national security agency Have you practiced law for 15 years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48131141) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:23 PM Author: diverse corner corn cake No but it's not like my salary is increasing faster than inflation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132380) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:26 PM Author: Exciting Meetinghouse Mental Disorder gov? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132392) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 1:06 PM Author: diverse corner corn cake shitlaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48137576) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:25 PM Author: Insecure fat ankles If you don’t ace OCI you’re fucked imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132386) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:27 PM Author: Exciting Meetinghouse Mental Disorder in a lot of cases.
but I've seen people hustle their way out of a bad situation after a few years. sometimes the market is bad during OCI then picks up a few years later, and more people get into the BIGLAW tent. |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:28 PM Author: Soggy Resort Roast Beef i was one of those people. then i got fuct as a biglaw service partner and stole around a million of a rainmaker's business and am now an equity partner in BIGMIDLAW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132401) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:32 PM Author: spruce soul-stirring stead 180
Did you get sued/burn any bridges? |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:50 PM Author: Soggy Resort Roast Beef no, i actually was miserable after i left biglaw and tried to go back. the rainmaker was proud that i stole his clients and lobbied hard for the firm to take me back but the board adopted a rule that lateral partners had to have 2m in business so they dinged me. he's near the end of his career and doesn't have the pull he did.
so i wound up where i am now, and i'm in a good spot. i basically am the traditional labor practice here and it's busy as shit. i should make around 500k this year, and i will likely get an increase in shares next year. if i'd gone back to biglol, i'd likely be at like $450k - maybe even a bit lower. |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:22 AM Author: spruce soul-stirring stead Congrats on maeking it. I think biglaw is for risk-averse pussies and nerds. There's less prestige but way more potential and freedom outside the plantation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133721) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:36 AM Author: Thriller Tank What about people who could never manage to squeeze themselves into the round peghole of BIGLAW? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133757) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:28 PM Author: Soggy Resort Roast Beef I honestly kinda miss biglaw but whatever. Everyone thinks I’m really smart and an expert here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138540) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:33 PM Author: Motley emerald hospital I make 400k/350k in a bad year, but I don’t “practice” or “work” really, because I’m inhouse. To get me to work at a firm I would need to make at least 750k and that’s for an 1800 hour target. For a 2000+ hour target I’d need to make at least 900k, and even then it would only be worthwhile if there was a clear path of bizdev that would lead to a $5+M annual book within two years and total comp well into seven figure range. I can’t emphasize enough how preposterously little work I have been asked to do in my 10+ years inhouse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132422) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 9:41 PM Author: gay zombie-like property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48132458) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 12:36 AM Author: splenetic location national security agency I'll make $2 million this year and I'm thinking about quitting lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133042) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:43 AM Author: mentally impaired clear french chef cumskin Does in house have good years and bad years? I would have expected predictability (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133776) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:51 PM Author: Motley emerald hospital Sort of/not really. But they can fuck you on your bonus if the company is doing badly, which was the reason I listed a range. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138784) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:52 PM Author: fragrant hell Prob depends on the bonus and equity components. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138785) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:25 PM Author: azure church foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138531) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:36 PM Author: infuriating sneaky criminal windowlicker What kind of company in house? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138747) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:50 PM Author: Motley emerald hospital A major one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138780) |
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Date: September 25th, 2024 10:06 PM Author: Internet-worthy vermilion ratface I think xoxo tends to vastly overestimate how much non-big law attorneys are making.
I get recruiter emails now, and due to the NYC laws, they have to disclose compensation - and it's basiclly $200-260 base for standard in-house jobs at banks, PE funds, real estate shops, etc - and they all require like 4 days in the office 9-6 hours.
I'm very happy to make that amount in flyover in house doing like 20 hours of real work a week. Seems like a lot of people are making a similar amount doing big law type work with near big law type hours with a NYC cost of living. |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 12:07 AM Author: Thriller Tank $200-$250k almost makes it not worth it at all. I feel like I make nothing and I have no path in front of me. It’s terrible for motivation. I constantly ask myself why I am putting up with others’ bullshit to make so little and to have such a little suburban life. I came from a broken family. My mom was deranged and remarried and I received the typical treatment from the Johns she chose that you would expect. My siblings are all dead. And yet, despite being a lawyer, I live in a more middle class neighborhood than the one I grew up in. I have literally slid downward in socioeconomic status despite obtaining a professional degree, working for decades, and being the literal sole survivor of my upbringing. |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 12:37 AM Author: supple house It’s not your fault. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133043) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:40 AM Author: Cocky carnelian weed whacker brunch Whose fault is it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133765) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 10:09 AM Author: Lime vibrant set 180 post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133829) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 12:00 PM Author: Laughsome Public Bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134246) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 2:13 PM Author: insane mildly autistic spot We are all struggling, and many have it MUCH worse off than you you faggot. I hate to be a boomer but god damn you are so whiney (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48137911) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:33 PM Author: mauve sweet tailpipe What happened to your siblings? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138558) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 10:21 AM Author: magenta whorehouse That's base though, right ? There should be bonus + stock / RSUs, on top. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133869) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 9:41 AM Author: Curious pungent hissy fit doesn't the GS pay scale top off at around 180k/year?
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Date: September 26th, 2024 10:18 AM Author: Flushed preventive strike half-breed yeah govtmos are lucky to hit 150. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133854) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 10:13 AM Author: Lascivious Sanctuary Shitlib sup.
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Date: September 26th, 2024 10:16 AM Author: duck-like pocket flask home sounds like a good outcome IMO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48133845) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:22 AM Author: deranged coiffed stage mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134093) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:22 AM Author: Sepia Domesticated Senate Judges (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134092) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:22 AM Author: deranged coiffed stage mad-dog skullcap I make $121k in shitlaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134094) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:28 AM Author: massive garrison nibblets Clearly, you're not a Shitlaw King.
Why aren't you making more money? |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:29 AM Author: deranged coiffed stage mad-dog skullcap Paedomorph, gay face, gay voice, small soft penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134119) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:30 AM Author: Cocky carnelian weed whacker brunch intriguing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134125) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:34 AM Author: massive garrison nibblets HOw is any of this stopping you from getting clients that are prepared to pay for your services? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134147) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:51 AM Author: deranged coiffed stage mad-dog skullcap What's your practice area? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134224) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:20 PM Author: massive garrison nibblets personal fucking injury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138521) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:29 AM Author: massive garrison nibblets I run my own ShitLaw practice and I cleared over $200k last year.
I don't mean gross revenue, I mean just what I paid myself after all other expenses.
Why are you slaving away for someone else if they're paying SHIT, PURE DRIPPING SHIT wages? |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:29 AM Author: deranged coiffed stage mad-dog skullcap 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134120) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:58 AM Author: smoky internal respiration most lolyers are risk adverse faggots and they dont believe how easy it is to maek money as a solo or that its like 10% as much work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134243) |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 11:59 AM Author: deranged coiffed stage mad-dog skullcap You are my #1 solo inspiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48134245) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 1:13 PM Author: massive garrison nibblets Sadly, this is accurate as fuck.
If you can get pussy, then you can convince someone to PAY YOU to solve their legal issue.
It's not that hard. The barrier to entry is ridiculously low. All you need is a laptop and cheap website from GoDaddy and you are a full-fledge law firm. |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 1:39 PM Author: smoky internal respiration when i started i wld read abt dumb bitch shrews going solo and paying 1k a month for westland and 2-3k a month for a "website developer" and all this shit, then they wld claim they need a paralegal and secretary even though no clients
most lolyers are highly retarded and have no concept how easy and cheap it is to go solo, i think my overhead was like $35 a month |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 2:46 PM Author: massive garrison nibblets The hilarious part is that the FAST money is definitely in Family & Criminal law.
There are ALWAYS poors who have enough cash for a lawyer that need legal assistance. As long as you collect your money UP FRONT, then there's no excuse to not be a RICH-FIGGA-NIGGA within a year. |
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Date: September 26th, 2024 12:02 PM Author: Lime vibrant set Government workers, in-house drones, small firm of counsels make 200-259k or even less.
I make 375-400k right now as a litigation boutique of counsel but hopefully getting breakfast in January. |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 2:47 PM Author: massive garrison nibblets lol @ "hopefully someone will feed me instead of being a real fucking man and going out and getting my own cases" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138044) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 1:08 PM Author: mind-boggling outnumbered idea he suggested All in-house positions pay at least 400k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48137597) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 1:58 PM Author: Thriller Tank This thread makes me extremely depressed and makes me feel like I’ve wasted my life. Then I consider that I’ve grown up poorer than my parents (who were layabouts who did nothing except get divorced and have children that all wound up dead before 35) Then I start to seethe with bitter rage. God, I am such a failure. I have failed at everything I have ever tried. |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 2:01 PM Author: Fluffy mediation immigrant I’m at 200 in house but there are whole days I don’t do anything. I’m too spoiled now to leave for more money because I’m a lazy fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48137872) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 2:04 PM Author: Thriller Tank I barely make that and I have to bill, travel all over the country to bullshit places, manage people, submit time sheets, do hearings. I thought I would be doing more actual things like taking depos or direct exam in court, but no. It’s just an unmoving sea of bullshit small tasks, with an easy billable task floating randomly like sargassum in an otherwise endless world of varied hued blues. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48137885) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 2:05 PM Author: Fluffy mediation immigrant I’m sorry, brother. You’ll get to the promised land eventually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48137889) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:37 PM Author: fragrant hell Can you get me a job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138750) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:25 PM Author: razzle-dazzle theater kitty I want to get about $70k to work half-time remotely from some dirt cheap country. Help me realize my dream, friends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138533) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:31 PM Author: Passionate piazza private investor you cant live anywhere on 70k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138551) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:32 PM Author: razzle-dazzle theater kitty Absolute nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138556) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:50 PM Author: Passionate piazza private investor link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138591) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 5:25 PM Author: azure church foreskin too much integrity? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138535) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:55 PM Author: Aromatic Mexican Indian Lodge Median lawyer isn't even cracking 200k and is 15 years out. That said, it's an easier life than most jobs let you have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5601336&forum_id=2...id.#48138792) |