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Date: July 22nd, 2024 8:39 AM Author: olive motley abode mental disorder
Mondale was not great. But he was a Korean War vet. Similar to Kamala, he was appointed AG and then appointed to the Senate.
Chosen as Veep, served without much noise, then blown out on the top of the ticket.
At the very least, he drove armored vehicles in combat. That must give you some degree of gravitas and patriotism.
He was not a great candidate.
Michael Dukakis was a Swarthmore dweeb. He did, however, turn down Harvard Law to go serve in Korea. He was an Eagle Scout when that meant something.
He started out leading town meetings in Brookline MA and worked his way all the way up. He was never appointed to anything, always won elections.
Bill Clinton is a genius and the most gifted politician of his generation. He revived a nearly dead Democrat party.
Al Gore was a nepo baby. But he graduated Harvard and enlisted to go to Vietnam when he could have easily avoided it.
John Kerry was a nepo baby, army brat, and heir to a fortune. Yale athlete. Enlisted in the Navy in 1966. Wounded twice in combat, seemed somewhat courageous. Good campaigner in MA. Heavily bogged down in lib shit in the 80s.
Barack Obama was, like Clinton, a great communicator and while buoyed by racial issues outside his control, self-disciplined enough to ride the times to term white house terms. Sixteen years after his election, he remains in control of the Democrat Party.
We've all heard enough about Joe Biden. Nonetheless, he rose to the top of the swamp and remained on top for *decades*. In Congress, he entered the inner-circle of a bipartisan group of 20th Century men who really ran the country.
Harris has never accomplished anything, never sacrificed anything. She is not smart, not a good communicator, has not contributed to leadership in any significant way.
She is *easily* the worst Dem nominee in our lives, and perhaps going back to WW2.
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 10:51 AM Author: olive motley abode mental disorder
thing about the cult -- we didnt make him the high priest. he didnt really do much to make himself the high priest.
LIBS made him the high priest. Libs selected him, pushed him, obsessed over him 247, and revived him when he was all but dead.
The 33% of the US who are true maga zealots, and the remaining 15 or 20% who overcome some doubts to link arms, do so not because they particularly like ANYTHING about Trump. They do so because they hate YOU.
Trump failed to build a wall, he betrays movements like project 2025, backstabs people like Bukele for no reason... he's a terrible cult leader on the face of it.
But a third to half of this country will vote *against* DC, and amazingly trump is the only who who has been able to occupy that spot on the ballot
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 2:49 PM Author: wine ticket booth turdskin
Date: July 22nd, 2024 1:59 PM
Author: president garfield's boipussy
extremely bad look that would have potentially tanked his ability to win in 24. i fully expect that he will pardon every last one of those doods now, particularly after he's been charged with a bunch of shit himself.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47878772)
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 12:17 PM Author: Khaki lay
He never told anyone to storm the capitol
He never called Nazis in Charlottesville good people
The fact that you're recycling this crap and getting bumped by retards like LTM evidences that you are scared and definitely doing to lose
Hope that helps!!
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 2:59 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
MFCR
This is what libs don't get with all of their withering takedowns and blistering commentary on how stupid we are for supporting Drumpfth and how ineffectual is as a POTUS -- "LOL ZION DON!" "LOL THIS ORANGE BUFFOON IS YOUR GOD?" "LMAO DID HE ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING HE PROMISED TO DO IN OFFICE?!"
Yes, all true. 100% of it. Trump is a gay buffoonish orange Boomer who will probably fuck up his second term, as well. Norm voice: "You are correct."
But that's not why people vote for him. People vote for him because KIKES AND LIBERALS JUST CAN'T SEEM TO KEEP THE MASK UP WHEN IT COMES TO "ORANGE RETARD ZION DON." His biggest accomplishment by far is inducing you faggots to FULLY expose your true hideous ratfaces for the whole world to see -- and that's an incredibly important thing with real world ramifications, and it's also a significant accomplishment in that only Zion Don The Orange Boomer Retard(TM) has managed to consistently pull off in my lifetime. In other words, we're not voting for Trump because he's a great leader or even an effective one... we're only voting for him because of the way he makes you behave, and because it's very important for people to see who you truly are.
God bless him for that. I love him for that alone.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47878806) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 3:16 PM Author: olive motley abode mental disorder
cr.
makes me think about something Kaczynksi wrote, tho.
A big part of your argument, and I think tbf your politics, is engendering some kind of "waking up" of the masses.
"it's important for people to see..." you wrote.
It's wild to find myself of a more cynical orientation than TBFtp, but I do not think these people will ever wake up, or "see", my friend.
And so back to Ted. He writes that a successful climate revolution does not require, and will never muster, the support of the majority, or even a plurality. That it's wasted hope and wasted time to try. That the change, should it ever come, will come from a violent and committed but SMALL group.
Iow, winning hearts and minds is a fools errand.
This rings true to me. Historical conditions will create - and may be creating right now! - a group of violent men who will radically change the status quo. Maybe we'll be long dead, maybe not
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47878865) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 3:21 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
Counterpoint: It's very easy and frankly quite fun (because it's fundamentally self-flattering) to sit back and scoff about how "the retard NPC masses" never learn anything, but macro-level public polling simply doesn't back this up.
Go take a look at polls on overall American public trust in institutions and "experts" (especially but not exclusively the MSM) over the last 10 years. The sharp downward trend -- especially among those under 40 -- is absolutely stunning and unprecedented in American history, and it's not because the far right side of the Bell Curve has shifted and it's not because "NPCs never learn anything."
And that's the thing -- Ted is correct that you don't need "the masses" to pull off a revolution. He's absolutely correct that all you really need is a very committed hardcore core of ideologues and fighters. But what you CAN'T have is staunch principled opposition to the core precepts of the revolution among "the masses." And that's exactly what has been standing in the way of real social change for our entire lives: a widespread belief among normal people that generally speaking, our government/society is overall more or less "good," that the MSM usually at least kind of tries to be pretty honest, etc. Put differently, the normie resistance to major change is evaporating before our very eyes at this point.
That change is now happening VERY quickly, and the dramatic shift in baseline operating assumptions among the 90 IQ normie set is precisely what will open up the field for the smart hardcore ideologues to do the needful down the line. The only real questions left IMO are (1) when will that happen (sure it could take another 10-20 years), and (2) which side of the aisle will ultimately prevail in the upcoming war for America.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47878883) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 3:56 PM Author: Hyperactive floppy dog poop
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I was reading Nate Silver last night and he said his biggest mistake in his career as an election forecaster was he didn't think Trump would be the Republican nominee in 2016. I think you are in good company there. He said the reason was he didn't think Trump was the strategic choice. This was said in the same breath as lauding the Dem elites for ousting Biden and replacing him with someone with a better chance at winning.
I've had this conversation with gunnetatttt many times about how libs cannot comprehend doing something on principle. Whether or not Jeb would have beaten Hillary is immaterial. The truth is conservatives were sick and tired of voting for the Same Thing. Trump irrevocably moved the Overton window. He had to do a bunch of things normies didn't think possible to achieve this. And here we are, a completely changed Republican party. Win lose or draw, a vote for Trump is something different. People now have an option, something the sniveling kikes on the left could never comprehend. Standing up for your principles.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47879005) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 4:00 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
180
And the 2022 Midterms were proof of exactly what you said. The "GOP" is less popular than ever -- except to the extent that it is overtly *Trumpian*.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47879016) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 4:11 PM Author: Hyperactive floppy dog poop
I will say that a caveat is that the GOP has a problem finding likable Trumpian candidates. For instance no one is ever going to lament that we don't have Dr. Oz, Hershel Walker, and Blake Masters in the Senate. Kari Lake will also fail and not even Trump can carry her on the AZ ballot.
The Vance types are sort of rare. GOP needs to find personalities to match. Being truly Trumpian is actually kind of difficult to finesse. Just look at how Vivek some scammy Indian managed to come out of nowhere and dunk on all the candidates who ran against Trump in the primary just by having a stronger grip on the material. It's sort of astonishing that everyone hasn't picked up on this.
Ted Cruz reinvented himself from a Bush era neocon to a Trumpian populist. But a guy like Kevin McCarthy is still out there making speeches about how there ought not be so many white people in the GOP. So tone deaf. We really need a new generation to pick up the torch and keep going. Trump is just such a unique once in a generation persona that he could hold it all together and be so charismatic and float all these other boats along with him. But we need more. More personalities. They have to be good or voters will wince.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47879037) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 4:29 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
I agree with this, but just remember that Hitler didn't make the base -- Hitler rose to power *because of* the base. And then Hitler fashioned and forged the nascent Nazi Party to serve the base.
"The base" now firmly controls the GOP, and even if Trump died tomorrow, "the base" isn't going anywhere. I'm not minimizing how rare and difficult it is to find a Hitler (or a Trump), but there are billions of people alive on this planet and many of them crave fame and fortune and power.
As long as "the base" identifiably exists and wants a figurehead, a figurehead will inevitably arise to capitalize on that opportunity.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47879120) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 4:44 PM Author: Hyperactive floppy dog poop
As a lifelong scholar of the Third Reich I can say unequivocally that the regime would not have existed without the personal charisma and leadership of Adolf Hitler himself.
That isn't to say that there wouldn't have been some intense bubbling up of hypernstionalism in Germany in the 1930s. But it would have looked completely different and impossible to predict. Libs didn't create Hitler the way they created Trump. Hitler was Hitler his entire life, his views were set in stone from a young age and never evolved or changed throughout his entire life. The only real exception to this is after the 19 November Putsch he shifted his thinking from hostile overthrow to a persuasion campaign.
However, this campaign was not enacted in the normal democratic sense. He obviously did not play fair. Some people he got on his side through his charisma alone but he also strongarmed a lot of folks, disappeared rivals, ran false flags and whatever else he could think of to win. He was absolutely ruthless. You really can't compare the situations in Germany back then and today, they didn't have freedom of the press and shit and they had a whole different culture descended from the Prussian obsession with the military, a culture that had been enslaved by nobility longer than other western European nations, a long series of strongman kings and later kaisers. The whole background is different. But I suppose without Hitler you still would have had a bunch of young angry men who were willing to go to war with shitlibs and commies. I have no idea how else it would have turned out but Hitler was such a unique personal figure it's not like there were 10 other figures who would have acted similarly.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47879174) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 4:47 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
I'm not disputing that, but I'm saying that Hitler didn't just appear out of nowhere like Jesus Christ come to Earth and suddenly stir up a ton of antisemitism using a magic wand and POOF! we have Nazi Germany.
Hitler was a transformational figure with certain rare and incredibly important personal traits, but he was also both a product of a larger social environment AND a guy who had the talent and the will to capitalize on a golden opportunity which he correctly identified. Without that golden opportunity being present, we would have no idea who "Adolf Hitler" was. And in this context, the golden opportunity is really just a synonym for the existence and hunger of "the base".
In modern day America, "the base" wasn't even really there 20 years ago in a meaningful way. But things are moving quickly now, and "the base" put Trump in the WH eight years and it now fully controls the GOP.
(It's fashionable, especially on the Left, to pretend that Trump controls the base, but that's total bullshit and easily disproven. How? If Trump actually controlled the base, he would spend half of his rallies talking about how he is responsible for the COVID vaccines and he deserves a ton of credit for them -- and in fact early on in his current campaign he tried to forcememe that repeatedly, and it fell flat every single time until he wisely backed off and now never brings it up anymore. He's obviously extremely personally proud of that "accomplishment," but he will never brag about it publicly even though you can tell he's dying to speak on it at length. Why? Because when it comes to "the base" vs Trump, only one side is actually setting hard limits on what can or cannot become a plank of the GOP's platform, and contrary to what the retarded kikes at The Atlantic seem to think, it ain't Trump calling those shots -- all he can do is read the tea leaves and try to color creatively within the lines that are drawn for him to fill in.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47879197) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 4:57 PM Author: Hyperactive floppy dog poop
I can agree with this. The forces at play were in position. It was absolutely a powder keg and it could have blown a completely different way. Franz von Papen wanted to be the dictator as well and even gave Hitler the idea of eventually dissolving the Reichstag. Thälmann wanted Germany to join the Soviet Union. It was a very kooky time but Hitler's base came from disaffected youth, former WWI vets (he was as closely associated with WWI figures such as Erich Ludendorff and Paul von Hindenburg as possible). The Freikorps is thought to be his original base who were young unemployed men that the government paid to stomp out periodic Communist uprisings. And the ashamed former Prussian military men. The Freikorps later folded into Hitler's SA Brownshirts very nicely.
Göring was a good example. His father had been the governor of what is now Namibia and came back to Berlin and his pension wasn't enough to feed his family or to live on. His dad let his mom bang a rich Jew so they could live in a castle. This obviously tormented him and he had dreams of wealth and power and then he was in the Luftwaffe in WWI. The type of person who came back from the war and was broke and had no opportunities. So you're absolutely right there were a ton of these people and they would have obviously all done something.
Without Hitler we have no idea which exact way it breaks, but something had to give.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47879219) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 5:00 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
(Guy who gets it)
Hitler made it turn out the specific way it turned out, but it was an unusually kooky time for many reasons and BIG CHANGES were coming down the pike one way or another, with or without Hitler. That's exactly where we are in current Weimerica 2024.
Of course, bear in mind that I'm a total retard who is famously wrong about everything, and really really smart kikes who are always right about everything will soon rush in here to assure you that nothing ever changes and this is all just delusional and pathetic copium being spouted by a madman.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47879232) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 9:44 AM Author: beta provocative background story hell
"... has never accomplished anything, never sacrificed anything. ... is not smart, not a good communicator, has not contributed to leadership in any significant way.
You can say the exact thing of Trump.
He is an entitled, boomer, 1% -er, narcissistic misogynist with low moral character, and who waves his arms around at events and demands his audience "Love Me". And he is orange.
This country is doomed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47877607) |
Date: July 22nd, 2024 8:45 AM Author: razzle zombie-like travel guidebook chapel
She is not the nominee.
And she will not be the nominee.
This whole choreographed show that unfolded over the last month was planned at least 6 months ago, probably more, with the sole intent of appointing an optimal (in obama's mind) ticket.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47877489) |
Date: July 22nd, 2024 8:53 AM Author: chestnut aromatic corner psychic
This the most damming story I’ve seen about Kamala’s abilities:
In April 2022, Harris was the guest for a dinner at D.C. news mogul David Bradley's home — a salon-style event Bradley hosts with Washington journalists and newsmakers.
Harris' anxiety about the dinner was such that her staff held a mock dinner beforehand, with staffers playing participants, according to two people familiar with the event.
Harris aides even considered including wine in the mock prep so Harris could practice with a glass or two.
They ultimately decided against it.
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/22/biden-kamala-harris-election-chances
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47877500)
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 8:54 AM Author: Nubile avocado school
Cool absurdly glaring omission, bro.
People forget how truly awful Hillary was at running for POTUS. She was terrible on the stump, worse giving a major televised address, a gaffe machine at press conferences and awful doing interviews on TV or radio. Kamala is only slightly better at some of those things and doesn’t have the party’s infrastructure under her complete control. But Hillary was as awful as one can be at running for POTUS and then made her problems 100x worse by hiring Robby Mook and the tacklebox full of buttplugs gang.
Trumpmos particularly seem to underestimate how insanely lucky Trump has been to draw this string of shit opponents. I think this race is close no matter what now, and will get uncomfortable if she manages to not puke on her shoes for four months.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47877501) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 9:00 AM Author: olive motley abode mental disorder
hahah youre right. no excuses. I just missed HER.
She was a really, really bad campaigner. Hateable. Was hateable ever since 92. "Feminist" clothing never even fit her, given her marriage. She didnt fit in anywhere.
BUT, she was an adept politician (not campaigner) at times, smart enough to engage in challenging policy issues. She bungled health care, but she had the professionalism to engage the issue and make it "hers". What issue was ever Kamala's while she was in the Senate? Nothing.
Hillary's IQ would lap Kamala's. Some wonk position would have been perfect for hillary, if she didnt have to deal with voters or likeability.
If someone had to manage a big problem in my life, behind the scenes, I would 1000x trust hillary over kamala.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47877510) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 3:03 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
CR, Hillary was an almost unbelievably unlikeable character -- a deeply shrill and grating stuck up cunt who was totally high on her own supply and rubbed tons of people the wrong way by simply being a huge snooty bitch and due to the perception that she was only where she was because she fucked Bill and road his coattails into power. Frankly, Trump was INCREDIBLY luck to get to run against her.
...now, do Kamala.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47878828) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 10:35 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
Kamala is one of the few women currently active in American national politics who is OBJECTIVELY less likeable than HRC. That's a fact, not an opinion, and we shall see the proof of it born out within a few months.
HTH, Ari.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47880732) |
Date: July 22nd, 2024 9:40 AM Author: fragrant famous landscape painting
she might be the dumbest (although I think Joe is actually a rung below her even pre-dementia) but she is far from the worst in terms of ability to get elected
dukakis was just trotted out as a sacrificial lamb but still comically autistic
gore followed a pretty popular presidency and lost entirely because he listened to all his "advisors" re:personality, drolling on about lockboxes and other gay shit while W was smiling and awkwardly kissing babies like he needed to.
hillary was so strongly disliked that she almost got blindsided by bernie fucking sanders
kerry was as close to a blank slate "normie face" guy as you could possibly get and nobody identified with him because there was nothing there. basically the Dem version of Romney
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5561558&forum_id=2...id.#47877595) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2024 3:01 PM Author: olive motley abode mental disorder
as a gotcha?
the point of op was that it's significant that she is the heir apparent to the more successful political party of the 21st C *despite* being the worst nom in our lifetimes.
her winning would be in keeping with that
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Date: July 23rd, 2024 3:37 PM Author: Mewling mediation police squad
To be fair,
And it's all totally genuine and heartfelt.
I truly believe Trump should just suspend his campaign now. There's simply no way.
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