anyone here tried to write a book / wrote a book
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
how'd it go
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 5:51 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
link?
what's his moniker?
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 5:50 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
what kind of book
expound on how it went
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
you should poast them for your xo bros
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 5:51 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
what kind of book
expound on how it went
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
how'd you get so many subs
what do you mean "weekly work"
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
fiction? any unique angle? do you have much of an audience?
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 6:33 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
what kinds of books
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 9:21 PM Author: shitlib shibboleth
LOL, of the top 20 best sellers now, there are 5 coloring books, two bible study aids, and one "home apothecary" reference book.
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books/zgbs/books
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5658754&forum_id=2...id.#48516285)
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 6:31 PM Author: you\'re the puppet
My protagonist is female but pretty hetero conservative themes overall. There is precisely zero chance I will network to achieve publication.
I guess maybe I can send a sup on linkedin. That would be me at the very top of my networking game.
also, tyty, this is actually helpful
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 6:35 PM Author: cock of michael obama
lots of poasters here focused on getting published through a traditional route
in this era, imo, if you're doing to do something interesting -- which is inherently going to be anti-establishment and edgy -- you're probably going to have to self-publish
arx-han wrote an awesome book called incel and had to self-publish it (https://www.amazon.com/INCEL-Novel-ARX-Han/dp/B0CJLCZVCG )
it's basically as good as american psycho, or close to it imo
he has been building his audience via word-of-mouth with regular substack posts and it's working out for him: https://www.decentralizedfiction.com/
the thing is marketing a book is a totally different skillset than writing one, and both are equally important. there's no easy way to success, it's a grind that takes a lot of work
anyway i highly recommend incel if you decide to read it
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
it'd be nice to have the refuge of academia in theory but it'd kill me to be so limited in language and thought given modern proclivities
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 9:16 PM Author: shitlib shibboleth
I know maybe 5 or 6 people who have published books through traditional publishers.
Two are rich lib yoga white women with nose piercings. One wrote a sob story about an immigrant family. The other wrote a chick-friendly book inspired by the death of her father. One of them got some critical praise, but neither seems to have been a "hit." These kind of people get more book deals because the book audience looks like them these days.
One is a black guy who writes in a genre that is traditionally very nerdy. He has a legit following but being "diverse" was his hook even though he went to top schools his whole life.
Two are white males. One is a former military guy who wrote a book that sold decently well and was optioned for a movie. But it was a personal story and a one hit wonder. The other only got his book deal because he's a close relative of a major literary darling.
I also know two rich white chicks who have kids and self-published books while being SAHMs for a period. They are probably the best-written books out of this list and I wouldn't be surprised if they ultimately made the same amount of money as the traditionally published books.
To have any real success today, you need to have something that's going to get snatched up for some netflix bullshit starring Nicole Kidman or Reese Witherspoon.
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 10:17 PM Author: ,,.,?..,,,.,?,.,,.,..,
written three novels in SF/F, couldn't get an agent with any of them. trying to write a fourth that is more commercial and hookier for the audience, which is lib white women agents - that said, as a white guy I have no hope anymore. I have no connections in the industry, don't have a good lib backstory, and don't have it in me to tailor my writing for the market
to be honest the whole process has totally blown out my holds. I'm so cynical and jaded and depressed re: the industry now that it makes me refrain from buying any book that's less than like 50 years old. I would never recommend any white male write a book or engage at all the publishing industry, it's a huge waste of time and you're basically just kissing the asses of people who resent you
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Date: January 4th, 2025 10:54 AM Author: orgasms (No Future)
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hell, just look at the books that the US government/red cross/etc would send overseas in cheap paperback editions during WWII--those guys read all sorts of high quality fiction
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Date: January 4th, 2025 6:29 AM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
mind sharing her name
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Date: January 3rd, 2025 10:50 PM Author: Greetings
Greetings,
Yes. 90K words of fanfiction, got thousands of readers. It was fun. I learned a lot about plotting and pacing without having to worry about world-building or inventing characters.
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Date: January 4th, 2025 8:55 AM Author: An 8-INT Orc AA'ing their way into mage school
I have submitted, but not been accepted. I've tried direct submissions to publishing houses and also submitting to agents. Writing is a passion of mine and it's a life goal to get something accepted/published and to hopefully find an audience. I've accepted that I will likely have to wait until I've retired from the rat race / raised my children to really, really give it a go. But, every so often I get the inspiration and I write/submit. So that's the context of my experience.
In my observations, the publishing industry is more or less controlled by coastal liberals. The kind of people who regard it as their life missive to 'boost' the stories of the 'historically marginalized.' It's a very bad era to be a straight white man that is just trying to publish a good story. It's just not what they are looking for. For example, I sincerely doubt that 'The Count of Monte Cristo' would be picked up today.
If you look at the publishing houses that will accept submissions direct from writers, or agents who are accepting submissions, they almost always tend toward marginalized topics/writers. Look at this, as one example:
https://writingcooperative.com/10-agents-looking-for-science-fiction-now-f7b634936c53
9 of 10 are women, and most are looking for middle-grade or young adult stories. There are several references to wanting diverse or female protagonists and wanting settings/themes outside of the medieval or European fantasy standards. So even if you took this all to heart and wrote a compelling story about an gay teenaged woman discovering herself in a fantasy setting inspired by Indian / Chinese / Korean / Japanese mythology, you'd still have no chance because you'd just be an interloper. You don't have the bona-fides. It's an industry where victim hierarchies and intersectionalities actually matter.
Some would say that it's just a response to the market. And while it's true that historically the MG/YA genres sell better, and adult women read much more than men, these measures have skewed very hard in the past 20 years because of the content published.
I realize that this will sound bitter/jaded/jealous, but I've read some of the current popular fantasy/science fiction out there and it's all just terrible. I just hate it. So many plot holes and contrivances. Just ridiculous, ridiculous shit where the reader should be like, 'there's no fucking way this would happen' etc. A lot of open focus on female sexuality too. And yet, this is the stuff that flies off the shelves at Target and goes high on the Amazon lists.
Anyway. That'll be it for now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5658754&forum_id=2...id.#48517114)
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Date: January 4th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
those who have produced serious work (successful or not), do you also have demanding jobs? how long did it take to write them?
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Date: January 4th, 2025 10:47 AM Author: ,,.,?..,,,.,?,.,,.,..,
It takes me on average about a year for a novel. That is at a pace of 500-1000 words a day, plus 1) planning, outlining, 2) about three rounds of edits, and 3) life getting in the way and the occasional lapses of motivation.
All three novels I wrote while I was in some way or another working full time, but not biglol levels of demanding jobs. You just need to clear about a solid hour a day and be serious about that time - having it consistently cleared and not wasting the time when you have it.
If I had infinite time to write I’d still probably do a book in a year, but it would be higher quality
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Date: January 4th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
do you actually make $$ from this?
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Date: January 4th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: ,,.,?..,,,.,?,.,,.,..,
No im the person above who has never sold anything, but you asked for unsuccessful people too. I do consider my books to be serious work within their genres
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Date: January 4th, 2025 11:57 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
My favorite authors all went to jail, and were only able to write during narrow windows of time when they were given that liberty. Sometimes they had been let out of prison, but circumstances were so fickle that they could end up back there any give time. So they had to write as much as they could, right now.
The best authors also had limited media to work with. Ancient Chinese texts are a lot easier to understand and aren't full of the customary bullshit we encounter in western texts, because the only long term storage media they had were small bamboo slats that could be assembled into "books" of only 30 slats.
The Mayans let their script do a lot of the talking. The way you wrote the script reflected your views as much as anything you were saying phonetically. You couldn't be a great writer unless you were also a great artist, with a distinctive style of writing anyone could identify.
But writing itself it TTT as a form of knowledge preservation. It was only developed as a technology for administrative purposes. For the first 500 years we had writing, no one even recorded the genealogy of kings, let alone any sort of religious or "popular" text.
Instead knowledge was preserved - and preserved better - through oral traditions, using song, meter and rhyme. You can teach a kid to sing a song a hell of a lot easier than you can teach him to read and write, and he's gonna remember those lyrics better than anything he reads in a textbook or the Bible.
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