\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Wonderful cruel-hearted cruise ship tattoo
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Ocher stirring den
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
Ocher stirring den
  05/29/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  06/03/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  06/08/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/01/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/03/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/06/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/08/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/13/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/14/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/16/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/20/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/24/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/29/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  07/30/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  08/04/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  08/10/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/11/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/11/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/11/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/11/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/12/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/12/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/13/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/13/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/16/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/16/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/17/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/18/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/23/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/24/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/24/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/24/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/26/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/26/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/26/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/27/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  11/28/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  12/02/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  12/04/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  12/04/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  12/07/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  12/08/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  12/08/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  12/09/25
...
Ocher stirring den
  12/10/25
...
nyuug
  12/16/25
...
nyuug
  12/18/25
...
nyuug
  12/21/25
Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Talking home
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
beta dun philosopher-king
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Talking home
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
beta dun philosopher-king
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Talking home
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
amber half-breed church
  07/01/25
...
self-centered temple immigrant
  07/13/25
...
Heady friendly grandma private investor
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
cerebral stage
  05/29/25
cq
Amethyst antidepressant drug laser beams
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Gaped Spectacular Theater Stage Legend
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
amber half-breed church
  07/02/25
...
Hello, World!
  12/18/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Tantric giraffe bawdyhouse
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Chrome milk karate
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
Sienna Thriller Preventive Strike Hominid
  07/16/25
It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar s...
Fragrant Space
  11/11/25
it was a nanny state.
Trip office hunting ground
  11/24/25
Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a sett...
Fragrant Space
  12/08/25
actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts four...
https://ibb.co/y3Zp4t6
  12/18/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Wonderful cruel-hearted cruise ship tattoo

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#23393887)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Ocher stirring den

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969812)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Ocher stirring den

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969813)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48985020)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48997575)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49064860)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49070377)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49077411)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49084518)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098591)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49101058)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49105012)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49117359)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49128622)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49141968)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49143857)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49156580)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49172980)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49421817)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49421862)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49421881)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49422254)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49424474)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49425035)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49425543)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49427654)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49436681)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49436785)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49439167)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49441985)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49454945)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49455274)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49457596)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49458108)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49461550)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49463581)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49464738)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49466319)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49467160)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49478445)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49484240)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49484832)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49492316)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49493000)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49495268)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49497250)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM
Author: Ocher stirring den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49500993)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49515504)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49518561)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49529071)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Talking home

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969854)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: beta dun philosopher-king

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969860)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Talking home

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969863)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: beta dun philosopher-king

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969954)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Talking home

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48971066)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: amber half-breed church

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065184)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: self-centered temple immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098592)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Heady friendly grandma private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098608)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: cerebral stage

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48970037)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Amethyst antidepressant drug laser beams

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48970041)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Gaped Spectacular Theater Stage Legend

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48985033)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: amber half-breed church

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065206)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: Hello, World!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49518664)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Tantric giraffe bawdyhouse

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48997602)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Chrome milk karate

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065026)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Sienna Thriller Preventive Strike Hominid

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49105022)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Fragrant Space

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49421865)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Trip office hunting ground

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49458174)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Fragrant Space

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49495273)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: https://ibb.co/y3Zp4t6

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49518563)