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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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cruel-hearted fanboi
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Pontificating Supple Theater Stage Sex Offender
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Pontificating Supple Theater Stage Sex Offender
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
grizzly institution macaca
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Kink-friendly native
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
self-centered parlour
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
sable resort
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
racy henna school cafeteria corn cake
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
self-centered parlour
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
racy henna school cafeteria corn cake
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
racy henna school cafeteria corn cake
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Yellow Fragrant Crackhouse Quadroon
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Dun internet-worthy theatre
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Violent whorehouse
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
cruel-hearted fanboi
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Hairless associate goal in life
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
ruby university newt
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
abusive digit ratio hairy legs
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
cruel-hearted fanboi
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
exciting box office
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
self-centered parlour
  06/26/25
...
offensive stimulating faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Scarlet abnormal station community account
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
impressive den cuck
  06/26/25
...
Transparent church dingle berry
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Bearded queen of the night yarmulke
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Maniacal menage masturbator
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
effete state immigrant
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
self-centered parlour
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Maniacal menage masturbator
  06/27/25
How was penn?
self-centered parlour
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
sable resort
  06/27/25
...
self-centered parlour
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Territorial Rose Headpube Stage
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Maniacal menage masturbator
  06/27/25
...
Jade appetizing orchestra pit
  06/27/25
...
self-centered parlour
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
effete state immigrant
  06/27/25
How is STB?
sable resort
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
ultramarine main people
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Scarlet abnormal station community account
  06/27/25
...
Concupiscible multi-billionaire area
  06/27/25
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Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: cruel-hearted fanboi

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Pontificating Supple Theater Stage Sex Offender

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Pontificating Supple Theater Stage Sex Offender

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: grizzly institution macaca

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Kink-friendly native

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: self-centered parlour

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: sable resort

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: racy henna school cafeteria corn cake

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: racy henna school cafeteria corn cake

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: racy henna school cafeteria corn cake

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Yellow Fragrant Crackhouse Quadroon

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Dun internet-worthy theatre

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Violent whorehouse

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: cruel-hearted fanboi

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Hairless associate goal in life

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: ruby university newt

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: abusive digit ratio hairy legs

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: cruel-hearted fanboi

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: exciting box office

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: self-centered parlour

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: offensive stimulating faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Scarlet abnormal station community account

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: impressive den cuck

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Transparent church dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Bearded queen of the night yarmulke

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Maniacal menage masturbator

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: effete state immigrant

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: self-centered parlour

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Maniacal menage masturbator

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: self-centered parlour

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: sable resort

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: self-centered parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Territorial Rose Headpube Stage

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Maniacal menage masturbator

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Jade appetizing orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: self-centered parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: effete state immigrant

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: sable resort

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: ultramarine main people

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Scarlet abnormal station community account

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Concupiscible multi-billionaire area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Domesticated Provocative Juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053817)