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Big Telephone
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
naked odious weed whacker church building
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
naked odious weed whacker church building
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
smoky voyeur
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Bat shit crazy crawly national security agency
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
180 maniacal shrine
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Galvanic hunting ground regret
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Offensive nibblets place of business
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
sepia piazza mexican
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
180 maniacal shrine
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
sepia piazza mexican
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
sepia piazza mexican
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
bearded thriller nowag station
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
sable public bath
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Orange Degenerate
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Galvanic hunting ground regret
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Big Telephone
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Glittery locus
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Jet-lagged Insanely Creepy School Liquid Oxygen
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Aquamarine bawdyhouse pisswyrm
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Big Telephone
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Purple Bisexual Lettuce Library
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/26/25
...
appetizing theatre
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
amethyst circlehead
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Citrine stag film
  06/26/25
...
Very tactful anal mediation
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
stirring apoplectic depressive
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
lilac old irish cottage
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
unholy gunner shitlib
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
lilac old irish cottage
  06/27/25
How was penn?
180 maniacal shrine
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Galvanic hunting ground regret
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Offensive nibblets place of business
  06/27/25
...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
racy incel
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
lilac old irish cottage
  06/27/25
...
trip greedy state police squad
  06/27/25
...
180 maniacal shrine
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
unholy gunner shitlib
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Offensive nibblets place of business
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Azure Theater Stage
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Galvanic hunting ground regret
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
amethyst circlehead
  06/27/25
...
white bateful french chef
  06/27/25
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Galvanic hunting ground regret
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Big Telephone

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: naked odious weed whacker church building

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: naked odious weed whacker church building

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: smoky voyeur

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy crawly national security agency

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Galvanic hunting ground regret

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Offensive nibblets place of business

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: sepia piazza mexican

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: sepia piazza mexican

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: sepia piazza mexican

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: bearded thriller nowag station

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: sable public bath

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Orange Degenerate

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Galvanic hunting ground regret

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Big Telephone

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Glittery locus

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Jet-lagged Insanely Creepy School Liquid Oxygen

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Aquamarine bawdyhouse pisswyrm

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Big Telephone

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Purple Bisexual Lettuce Library

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: appetizing theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: amethyst circlehead

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Citrine stag film

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Very tactful anal mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: stirring apoplectic depressive

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: lilac old irish cottage

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: unholy gunner shitlib

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: lilac old irish cottage

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Galvanic hunting ground regret

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Offensive nibblets place of business

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: racy incel

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: lilac old irish cottage

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: trip greedy state police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: 180 maniacal shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: unholy gunner shitlib

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Offensive nibblets place of business

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Azure Theater Stage

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Galvanic hunting ground regret

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: amethyst circlehead

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: white bateful french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Galvanic hunting ground regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2...id.#49053817)