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That client's name? Donald J. Trump.
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reading comp? he was across from Wachtell
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Date: May 14th, 2020 1:41 PM
Author: lascivious alcoholic nursing home old irish cottage



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Date: May 14th, 2020 2:16 PM
Author: Galvanic Indirect Expression

they only hire the best of the best

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Date: May 14th, 2020 2:17 PM
Author: exciting avocado trump supporter black woman

*Wachtell bros training montage as memories of Dae Han flash in their eyes*

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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:03 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 2:19 PM
Author: cowardly hideous spot kitty

403-1218--Dan Neff's office #. Call him & ask. Tell him xo sent you.

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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:03 PM
Author: fragrant fortuitous meteor

Huge Giants fan and NFL generally - get him going and it's at least 45 mins before you're hanging up.

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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:08 PM
Author: cowardly hideous spot kitty

"Yes?"

'Hey Dan, it's me, Leo.'

"Who?"

'Leo Lenin. From Autoadmit.'

"What's Autoadmit?"

'It's this racist--strike that. We're homosexual--'

"Listen, I don't have time--"

'Just hear me out. AutoAdmit is a community of lawyers, okay?'

"Like the ABA?"

'Yes, exactly. Just like the ABA, except we're heavily online. Practitioners from around the country are on our platform, constantly.'

"If you want an interview, you're going to have to go through our media team."

'I'm not trying to interview you. We're trying to understand your secret sauce. Everyone looks up to you.'

{laughter} "Do you know how many years people have been trying to understand Wachtell's secret sauce?' You're asking why the Mona Lisa's nose is just so. Even if I told you, you're not going to replicate it. No one can anymore. It was a unique confluence of factors that were there at the beginning and have carried us through, including in times like these. Good enough? I have a call I need--"

'We're not trying to replicate what you do. We just want to understand it. So we can admire it.'

"I'm going to say it one more time. It can't be done. It's an uncrackable code. Give it up kid, go call Faiza at Cravath if you want a long spiel about all their 'plus factors'--she'll blow smoke up your ass for a good hour or two."

'I don't want Faiza. I want you.'

{sighing} "Look, are you in New York?"

'Sure, I can be.'

"Did you say you're homosexual?"

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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:09 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:12 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:16 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:18 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:19 PM
Author: kink-friendly incel

You are a great poaster

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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:20 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:20 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:25 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:26 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:27 PM
Author: lascivious alcoholic nursing home old irish cottage

like the ABA, except we're heavily online

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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:32 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:46 PM
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this is why we all come here.

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Date: May 14th, 2020 4:39 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 4:47 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:03 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:10 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:12 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:16 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:18 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:28 PM
Author: Racy Immigrant

oh wow! these are real people.

https://www.wlrk.com/attorney/daneff/

https://www.cravath.com/fsaeed/

both managing partners at their respective firms.

another tidbit - looks like each was on the other side of the Anadarko/Oxy deal. lol. Faiza should have advised against.

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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:44 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 6:55 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 8:06 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 8:07 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 8:58 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 9:36 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 10:26 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 11:12 PM
Author: Irradiated address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40212005)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 11:15 PM
Author: internet-worthy pit



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Date: May 15th, 2020 3:21 PM
Author: jet community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40215821)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 6:40 PM
Author: Ungodly quadroon hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217005)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 6:47 PM
Author: trip ruby sex offender theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217056)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 6:55 PM
Author: ruddy fighting forum legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217102)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 7:40 PM
Author: nubile area tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217298)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 8:21 PM
Author: grizzly ticket booth partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217496)



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Date: May 16th, 2020 4:11 AM
Author: odious drab center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40219036)



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Date: May 16th, 2020 7:51 AM
Author: Ungodly quadroon hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40219239)



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Date: July 14th, 2020 9:38 PM
Author: Snowy Sanctuary

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40609417)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 5:44 PM
Author: Talented godawful theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#42706658)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 5:49 PM
Author: bossy lilac codepig

laugh every time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#42706684)



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Date: November 30th, 2021 8:28 PM
Author: chocolate stimulating corner voyeur



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Date: January 29th, 2024 9:42 PM
Author: chocolate stimulating corner voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#47344840)



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Date: January 29th, 2024 9:43 PM
Author: Hairraiser step-uncle's house psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#47344846)



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Date: January 29th, 2024 9:44 PM
Author: diverse university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#47344850)



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Date: September 8th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: Flatulent Pale Marketing Idea Hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#48064360)



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Date: September 8th, 2024 9:46 PM
Author: Dead church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#48064365)



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Date: September 8th, 2024 9:47 PM
Author: obsidian motley potus church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#48064370)



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Date: September 8th, 2024 9:48 PM
Author: Crimson fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#48064373)



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Date: September 8th, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: nubile area tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#48064388)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 12:05 PM
Author: Dead church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#49063225)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 2:31 PM
Author: Green yapping indian lodge

The services rendered are among the best services I've ever seen rendered.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209024)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 2:32 PM
Author: Buff native

They really know how to draft indemnity clauses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209037)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 2:55 PM
Author: lascivious alcoholic nursing home old irish cottage

I've heard the word "majesty" thrown around with respect to their drafting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209188)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 2:58 PM
Author: contagious meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209205)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:01 PM
Author: lascivious alcoholic nursing home old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209226)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:05 PM
Author: supple parlour elastic band

been co-defendants with wlrk shitigators on several m&a lit matters. their work product is no different than any other good biglaw firm.

at the lower biglaw firms, you REALLY start to see a drop-off in quality. some attorneys at those firms are solid. others would be more suited for shitlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209252)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:18 PM
Author: cowardly hideous spot kitty

being a litigator at Wachtell is like being a goy at a brit milah; you're there and you'll be tolerated fine enough but you're not the intended audience and frankly it's not so clear why you've shown up. Wachtell thinks they're the best of the best because of their transactional work; it's the m&a &c folks who view themselves as the big swinging dicks of the legal world, with some justification. On the litigation side you're much more likely to get that "we're the best of the best and fuck you" from a Covington or Cravath or Kirkland litigator than someone at Wachtell, ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209333)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:21 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209349)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:23 PM
Author: supple parlour elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209353)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:34 PM
Author: aqua blathering house friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209418)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 4:43 PM
Author: kink-friendly incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209831)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 5:51 PM
Author: maniacal set reading party

I wonder what it's like to work at Kirkland, or Cravath

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#42706695)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:25 PM
Author: Vivacious office

I am a close observer of m&a lit and I think WLRK is the best. Like, if I was a director facing concerning breach of fiduciary duty claims I would want them representing me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209362)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:29 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209394)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 6:56 PM
Author: Aquamarine filthpig

That client's name? Donald J. Trump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210574)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:08 PM
Author: crawly fluffy ape giraffe

Damn good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209274)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:10 PM
Author: Frisky Hall

Worked across from them on a few deals. Much better than some K&E douchebag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209293)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:13 PM
Author: Saffron cocky foreskin gaping

I've been opposite them. It's the same as everyone else's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209310)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:14 PM
Author: maniacal set reading party

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/business-and-practice/wall-street-nightmare-alive-as-kirkland-poaches-from-wachtell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209313)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:16 PM
Author: Saffron cocky foreskin gaping

lol @ calling a jew-firm like Wachtell "white shoe"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209322)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:24 PM
Author: supple parlour elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209359)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:34 PM
Author: maniacal set reading party

what kind of shoes do jews wear? do they even wear shoes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209415)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:34 PM
Author: supple parlour elastic band

jews would never wear white shoes. hard to return bc they get dirty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209422)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:43 PM
Author: Dead church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209461)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:43 PM
Author: Jade garrison

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210819)



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Date: September 8th, 2024 9:52 PM
Author: nubile area tank

*Criminally* underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#48064393)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 3:48 PM
Author: Saffron cocky foreskin gaping

See these white shoes? They mean jews not welcome.

Seriously, white shoe means wasps only no Jews allowed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209499)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 4:37 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king

what firm would billy "white shoes" johnson work at?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209787)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:31 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle goal in life associate

hello-fellow-white shoe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210169)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 4:45 PM
Author: Sienna Gas Station

they know what's market on everything without even needing to take the 30 seconds to look at ABA model slides!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209848)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 4:46 PM
Author: Sepia nighttime rigpig point

my company uses them for some stuff and it seems like normal biglaw work product to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209858)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 4:48 PM
Author: Violent Rigor Orchestra Pit

Depends on practice area. Lol at people in here talking about cap markets and litigation. Wlrks bread and better is M&A

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40209872)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:09 PM
Author: Saffron cocky foreskin gaping

OH HAI MARTY!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210024)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:09 PM
Author: Frisky Hall

I did some M&A deals across from them. Partner on my side was a big swinging dick you have heard of and a total asshole. He would get irate all the time because the senior associate leading the deal on the other side pwned him calmly and coolly all the time. I hated the partner so enjoyed it.

It was still pretty hellish though because WLRK team would turn heavy markups back in like a day. Fuckers never seemed to get fatigued.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210025)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:14 PM
Author: supple parlour elastic band

>>a big swinging dick you have heard of and a total asshole

tbf, (xo 2020 doesnt even know who marty lipton is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210052)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:27 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210151)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 8:13 PM
Author: Vivacious office

drunkard used to chat w/ him at 3 am, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210997)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 9:22 PM
Author: concupiscible lavender hairy legs business firm

If I recall correctly they were kindred spirits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40211408)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:39 PM
Author: exciting avocado trump supporter black woman

reading comp? he was across from Wachtell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210196)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:55 PM
Author: supple parlour elastic band

poor RC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210283)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 6:19 PM
Author: exciting avocado trump supporter black woman

i meant he was across from wachtell. but, poor reading comp by you either way?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210383)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 6:20 PM
Author: supple parlour elastic band

i know he was across from wachtell. the point is that, (xo 2020 hasnt even heard of marty lipton, so they haven't heard of his BSD partner who was across from wachtell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210387)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 6:26 PM
Author: exciting avocado trump supporter black woman

ok, fine. poor reading comp by me. your use of the word "even" gives some slight credibility to your contention you were arguing bla bla balla blah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210415)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:18 PM
Author: dark stage coldplay fan

Sounds pretty fun and exhilarating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210085)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:48 PM
Author: Frisky Hall

PEAK BIGLAW BABY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210841)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:21 PM
Author: maniacal set reading party

they are consummate professionals and untrollable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210106)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:25 PM
Author: Vivacious office

cr -my experience has been that they have no hyper-aggressive assholes (which are very common in other top firms) and instead are extremely polite and reasonable. a lot of firms will fight you to the death over shit that doesn't matter. with wlrk shit almost seems too nice and easy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210132)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:28 PM
Author: Zombie-like brilliant depressive double fault

give an EXAMPLE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210158)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 6:00 PM
Author: bateful burgundy crotch market

9.2 and the way it works with 7.6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210303)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king

are they RELENTLESS yet also CREATIVE??

https://kasowitz.com/ (the xo thread on this website redesign is one of my fav threads ever)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210160)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 5:39 PM
Author: supple parlour elastic band

180 thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210198)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 6:34 PM
Author: Sick big-titted pervert

looks like they're trying to sell workout supplements

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210453)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:46 PM
Author: Frisky Hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210830)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:10 PM
Author: Stirring ocher national background story

That’s not true. When I was a first year, I was across a wlrk partner on an NDA negotiation. I did my firm’s standard markup per the guide we were given. Wlrk partner calls me several hours later at like 9pm, blasts me for my heavy markup and tells me to redo the whole thing or else he’s not going to bother reviewing. He didn’t care that my client was an important PE firm vying to acquire his client company. I was still shaking as I wrote an email to my client, suggesting we should just go ahead and accept their original draft.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210646)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:17 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210687)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:23 PM
Author: Stirring ocher national background story

Nope, tranny. It’s not common except for NDAs where my firm let 1st years run it w/o supervision

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210717)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:49 PM
Author: passionate piazza

Flame, no way any firm let’s a first year do this with zero supervision

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210846)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:54 PM
Author: Frisky Hall

In an auction first years do it on sell side. But agreed usually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210866)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:49 PM
Author: Frisky Hall

Lol out the partner this is an amusing anecdote.

I've outted partners I hate. AK-47 is a real piece of work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210845)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 8:29 PM
Author: Stirring ocher national background story

I couldn’t be sure, it’s been over a decade

Someone like this dude maybe https://www.wlrk.com/attorney/jrcammaker/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217525)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:45 PM
Author: Frisky Hall

Cr. Usual bullshit tactics didnt faze them at all.

It was 180 watching the asshole partner get enraged at this like 7th year asian girl running circles around him while casually browsing Saks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210827)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 6:38 PM
Author: Green yapping indian lodge

"bread and better"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210474)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:26 PM
Author: 180 pistol

aren't they more or less just rent seeking dweebs at this point. they've developed enough cache (like McKinsey) so that CEOs know they can't get fired for hiring Wachtell, but their work is nothing special (like McKinsey).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210730)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:52 PM
Author: Misunderstood affirmative action

I worked across from them on some capital markets transactions, which was weird. They were assertive but out of their element, wasting a lot of time asking for off market/oddball stuff. I assume much stronger when working on M&A.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210858)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:55 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king

Out of their element? Unless they don't actually have a dedicated cap markets department and they had M&A people moonlighting on a cap markets transaction, I'd assume they're generally as competent and experienced as most other v20 firms in the area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210868)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 8:04 PM
Author: Misunderstood affirmative action

Sorry, this was tax group at WLRK. I’m sure they spend most of their time on M&A.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210919)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:57 PM
Author: Know-it-all provocative trailer park becky

Capital markets is TTT as fuck brej

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210876)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 9:10 PM
Author: maniacal set reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40211344)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:56 PM
Author: apoplectic soul-stirring personal credit line bawdyhouse

They are both super smart and grinders. Incredibly productive. And they are really lean so the associate sort of does the work of an associate team at another firm. So they are in the weeds which can be helpful to crossing all the Ts.

But do they know anything a cravath lawyer doesn’t know? Of course not.

I do think they are trained to always push for one thing totally off market. Like they always push one thing hard to make it a fight. Otherwise public M&A just goes by a script.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210871)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:58 PM
Author: Frisky Hall

Public M&A is boring. Just measuring who read more precedents basically.

not that PE is "fun" but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210883)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 7:59 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king

THOSE AREN'T COMPARABLE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40210887)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 8:09 PM
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Date: May 14th, 2020 9:17 PM
Author: Indigo Gaped Box Office Wrinkle



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Date: May 14th, 2020 10:39 PM
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I did a secondment at a place that used them, along with several other firms including my own. Their work wasn’t any better but they were noticeably more responsive and customer service oriented.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40211826)



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Date: May 14th, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: Vivacious office

what do you mean by "customer service oriented"?

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Date: May 14th, 2020 11:40 PM
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Date: May 15th, 2020 6:54 PM
Author: Ungodly quadroon hunting ground

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*1999 MIDI version of Pachelbel's Canon in D Major plays as hold music for 45 minutes*

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"Have you tried restarting your document?"

"I should have gone to Wachtell."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217094)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 7:13 PM
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Date: May 15th, 2020 7:18 PM
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Date: May 15th, 2020 8:31 PM
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Date: May 16th, 2020 9:22 AM
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Date: September 8th, 2024 9:51 PM
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Date: September 8th, 2024 9:53 PM
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Date: May 15th, 2020 6:41 PM
Author: Ungodly quadroon hunting ground

When the average biglawyer responds to emails at 11 PM on a Friday night within minutes of receipt, how can you be more responsive?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217016)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 8:20 PM
Author: Scarlet Fantasy-prone Plaza Philosopher-king

average biglawyer responds "We will look into this this weekend. sent from my iPhone."

At Wachtell, you'll have a full on fucking memo on the question at the crack of dawn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40217487)



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Date: May 15th, 2020 8:42 PM
Author: passionate piazza



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Date: May 15th, 2020 10:31 PM
Author: Ungodly quadroon hunting ground

Any other job: "I'll check this on Monday."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4534232&forum_id=2...id.#40218065)



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Date: May 16th, 2020 9:24 AM
Author: Frisky Hall

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Date: May 16th, 2020 3:27 PM
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Date: May 16th, 2020 9:26 AM
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Greenwald practiced law in the litigation department at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz from 1994 to 1995.

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Date: July 14th, 2020 9:27 PM
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Date: July 14th, 2020 9:27 PM
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Date: July 14th, 2020 9:40 PM
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