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Update on my 5 year quest to run a 5 minute mile. Ran a 5:09 last night

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4426831&mc=56&a...
Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube
  06/14/25
mazel tov height/weight/age?
Sadistic Know-it-all Cruise Ship
  06/14/25
6' 189 and mid to late 30s/early 40s
Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube
  06/14/25
1 fucking 800000000 attaboy, we need more poasting like t...
Ruby bateful hospital
  06/15/25
5:13 (2019) is my PB so I salute u
plum laser beams
  06/14/25
180000000 It's been like 10 years since i ran a marathon bu...
light titillating state
  06/14/25
180 repeats are your friend, ime. for that distance, once...
Ruby bateful hospital
  06/14/25
Nice. Got down to 17:48 5k past age 30, and ran a 5:19 in my...
doobsian racy therapy ticket booth
  06/14/25
Congrats this is actually cool unlike 95% of what people her...
Lemon Ungodly Set
  06/14/25
Prestigious
Abusive Crimson Orchestra Pit Friendly Grandma
  06/14/25
you do this in a race or a solo attempt on a track?
Mind-boggling territorial deer antler
  06/14/25
Just on a track I have not really seen any mile races its al...
Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube
  06/14/25
Disagree on the race. Find your local running clubs and look...
doobsian racy therapy ticket booth
  06/14/25
This dude should show up, crank out a 5 minute mile, smash s...
Lemon Ungodly Set
  06/14/25
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Ruby bateful hospital
  06/14/25
a 5:09 is better than every single soldier i know that was n...
Ruby bateful hospital
  06/14/25
nobody would give a shit about a mile race which is why they...
histrionic cowardly school cafeteria
  06/15/25
original thread is 180 "If you’re over 25, then ...
cobalt sanctuary haunted graveyard
  06/14/25
MFCR XO is full of non-athletes that have no concept of w...
Ruby bateful hospital
  06/14/25
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  06/15/25
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Chrome Charismatic Hunting Ground
  06/15/25
Sounds like you’re almost there and you can probably j...
pink razzle pit
  06/14/25
180 poast
Ruby bateful hospital
  06/15/25
Agree with all of this, especially hill sprints, but also if...
Impressive boiling water
  06/15/25
You must be a twink
180 Hell
  06/14/25
180 that you already hit 5:09. 180 that you're going for 5:0...
chestnut blood rage
  06/14/25
189 is not too heavy if he's lean and just means he's not a ...
Ruby bateful hospital
  06/15/25
he wants to hit 5:00 and quit. you don't think losing 10 lbs...
histrionic cowardly school cafeteria
  06/15/25
he's at a 5:09 you brainless dolt if he wanted to become ...
Ruby bateful hospital
  06/15/25
Yeah I have a big frame, I am actually lighter now than I wa...
Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube
  06/15/25
180, sprint work should more than get you there may also ...
Ruby bateful hospital
  06/15/25
https://bringbackthemile.com/calendar OP there are more m...
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  06/15/25
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Ruby bateful hospital
  06/15/25
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At-the-ready bright stock car area
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Chrome Charismatic Hunting Ground
  06/15/25
180 OP imo Alan Webb gave a lot of shortmos false hope, dud...
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  06/15/25
Update: First cool "fall" day of the year, ran...
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  09/16/25


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Date: June 14th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4426831&mc=56&forum_id=2#39468354

Got to 5:40 after a year and more or less stalled out there. The running community are largely distance oriented twinks so did not ever find any good training advice for a mile. I'd always get some setback like an annoying injury

Finally recently I got more serious and met a guy at the track who told me I need to focus on top speed, he said the average runner has the cardio to run a fast mile but not the physiology to sustain it."train fast run fast". So I focused on working my hip flexors by doing downhill sprints with as big of a stride as possible. Now the only thing holding me back is lactic acid clearance. I think I will hit sub 5 mins by the 1st week of august. Then I will go back to drinking beer and never run again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49014951)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Sadistic Know-it-all Cruise Ship

mazel tov

height/weight/age?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49014956)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:09 PM
Author: Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube

6' 189 and mid to late 30s/early 40s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49015568)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital

1 fucking 800000000

attaboy, we need more poasting like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49017297)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: plum laser beams

5:13 (2019) is my PB so I salute u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49014977)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: light titillating state

180000000

It's been like 10 years since i ran a marathon but it totally fucked me up and I wish I hadn't done it at all and just stuck to high intensive miles.

I never tried to break 5 but ran 3 6-min miles almost daily before that stupid "race". Should have focused on running a single 5 min mile daily and would probably be much healthier for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49014980)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital

180

repeats are your friend, ime. for that distance, once you have a good z2 base you just have to start building your anaerobic capacity and speed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49014981)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: doobsian racy therapy ticket booth

Nice. Got down to 17:48 5k past age 30, and ran a 5:19 in my only 1 mile race. Would have liked to break 5, but never focused on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49015044)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Lemon Ungodly Set

Congrats this is actually cool unlike 95% of what people here do in the wild

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49015362)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Abusive Crimson Orchestra Pit Friendly Grandma

Prestigious

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Date: June 14th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Mind-boggling territorial deer antler

you do this in a race or a solo attempt on a track?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49015391)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 4:08 PM
Author: Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube

Just on a track I have not really seen any mile races its always 5ks and up l. And I imagine my time is not anywhere near worth doing a race too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49015563)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: doobsian racy therapy ticket booth

Disagree on the race. Find your local running clubs and look for events. You’d be very competitive depending on your age group with that time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016001)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: Lemon Ungodly Set

This dude should show up, crank out a 5 minute mile, smash some running club chick, then never return. Would be a gay running club legend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016106)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital

a 5:09 is better than every single soldier i know that was not a cardio athlete of some kind in highschool and/or college. you will absolutely crush most people there who are recreational runners. whether you find any value in it is up to you, but your time for a mile or 1500m would be very competitive with anyone who didn't run in HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016122)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 11:47 AM
Author: histrionic cowardly school cafeteria

nobody would give a shit about a mile race which is why they don't have them

join your local club! nobody gives a shit about local clubs

if you want glory, run longer

if you want glory around here, get your 5:00 mile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49017408)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:14 PM
Author: cobalt sanctuary haunted graveyard

original thread is 180

"If you’re over 25, then it ain’t happening."

this is why the worst possible thing you could ever do is to take life advice from xo (except that one time 20 years ago the fiber cult was right)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016115)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital

MFCR

XO is full of non-athletes that have no concept of what's possible, and then also apply that same defeatism to every domain of life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016124)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 10:27 AM
Author: duck-like green box office



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Date: June 15th, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: Chrome Charismatic Hunting Ground



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Date: June 14th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: pink razzle pit

Sounds like you’re almost there and you can probably just keep following your current plan. Just for fun, here’s some mile type interval workouts I was doing while running cross country and track in high school. If you can do these, I think you could hit sub 5 (but again you could probably just stick with your current plan). I would only do one of these a week if you wanted to try. These should be pretty hard efforts.

4 x 400m, try to run each under 75 seconds. 60 seconds rest between 400s.

8x300, slow jog the remaining 100 each lap for rest. Again try for around 5 minute mile pace, or maybe a bit slower

12 x 200m, each rep should be fast but consistent. Try for 35 seconds and under, 30-60 seconds rest between each rep.

Another day a week do 8-10 seconds hill sprints if you have hills in your area.

Other days of the week would be easy running or rest days.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016268)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital

180 poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49017286)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: Impressive boiling water

Agree with all of this, especially hill sprints, but also if you cut 10-15lbs you are basically there op, nice job. I am mid 30s and just do 100m sprints + tennis to keep in shape, could never get into long distance running and was similarly discouraged when finding out all adult run clubs are 5k shuffle-runners and sickly marathon schloggers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49017739)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: 180 Hell

You must be a twink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016271)



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Date: June 14th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: chestnut blood rage

180 that you already hit 5:09. 180 that you're going for 5:00.

Is your target 5:00 or sub-5:00?

189 lbs sounds heavy for getting down to 5 minutes. Losing 10 pounds would probably help you.

In my 20s, I could run sub-6:00, and even that felt great.

There was a guy at my high school who could run in the 4:30s. It was really cool to watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016327)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital

189 is not too heavy if he's lean and just means he's not a twink

fuck losing 10lb if he's already lean, more anaerobic speed work (repeats, etc.) will do the trick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49017296)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 12:11 PM
Author: histrionic cowardly school cafeteria

he wants to hit 5:00 and quit. you don't think losing 10 lbs will help him?

not everyone is nick bare

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49017454)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 7:19 PM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital

he's at a 5:09 you brainless dolt

if he wanted to become a twink in service of this, he'd have already done so; as is, 189 at 6' is plenty skinny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49018492)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 7:36 PM
Author: Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube

Yeah I have a big frame, I am actually lighter now than I was in 9th grade. I played defensive line in HS. I am not a graceful runner by any means, definitely not built for distance.

Also I am eating super clean like only salmon and cabbage and broccoli, no processed foods or sugars, no alcohol etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49018539)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 9:17 PM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital

180, sprint work should more than get you there

may also benefit some from technique work, not sure what your stride looks like but i've gotten great benefit from it

180 goal and progress

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49018835)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 8:41 AM
Author: Mind-boggling territorial deer antler

https://bringbackthemile.com/calendar

OP there are more mile races than you think, go find one near you and pwn souls. Youll def go faster racing other d00ds than trying to push alone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49016951)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital



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Date: June 15th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: At-the-ready bright stock car area



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Date: June 15th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: Chrome Charismatic Hunting Ground

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49017329)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: Vigorous Frum Shitlib Partner

180 OP

imo Alan Webb gave a lot of shortmos false hope, dude was a real anomaly

https://youtu.be/Uz5JMR22AjM?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49017445)



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Date: June 15th, 2025 7:18 PM
Author: Ruby bateful hospital



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Date: September 16th, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: Concupiscible thirsty sound barrier headpube

Update:

First cool "fall" day of the year, ran a 4:53 this morning. Very hard effort.

I spent the last 3+ months being really strict with my diet, and the most important thing was having a high fat "meal" around 1 am. Usually some cottage cheese and natural peanut butter. This helped recovery a ton.

All the elevated cortisol from training means fasted glucose gets too high and causes inflammation. And actually it's very physiologically similar to insulin resistance. Makes it harder for muscles to pull in glucose for repair. I even got a glucose monitor to check levels and it was pretty insane. My fasted glucose would be 149 after a night of sleep, this was without having any sugar in months. Your liver produces it via "gluconeogenesis".

If you are under training stress, short on sleep, or running low on glycogen, hormones like cortisol and adrenaline push the liver to release extra glucose into the blood.

I couldn't do the finger prick thing because my blood pressure is so low not enough blood comes out to be measured. So I had to blade myself like a pro wrestler. Not flame.

I got this tip about fasting glucose from an olympic cycling coach who got banned by USADA for doping iirc. Now I genuinely think it's not age slowing athletes down as much as poor blood. I am never going to run again. This shit is not healthy.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5737757&forum_id=2...id.#49275347)