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Private equity is a real trip

“Hey, I’ll buy you, and I’ll put a small f...
Red Public Bath Fat Ankles
  07/07/24
I’ve first hand seen this work out very favorably for ...
Contagious Cumskin
  07/07/24
It works out great for management which is why it was invent...
Red Public Bath Fat Ankles
  07/07/24
So who is footing the bill in the end?
Contagious Cumskin
  07/07/24
In the end if it works out then everyone is happy. If it doe...
Red Public Bath Fat Ankles
  07/07/24
The “company” doesnt exist aside from the new sh...
adventurous selfie
  07/07/24
...
racy juggernaut
  07/09/24
aren't ipods crazy
Exhilarant maroon base mexican
  07/07/24
it's just tax arbitrage. a good scam if u can get in on it
Marvelous cuckoldry
  07/07/24
I don’t think the shareholders selling the stock take ...
adventurous selfie
  07/07/24
That shit that went down with Red Lobster was crazy, basical...
pink razzle-dazzle indirect expression theater stage
  07/07/24
the seller doesn't owe the loan. the buyer owes the loan wit...
domesticated locus
  07/07/24
these people are idiots don’t bother
adventurous selfie
  07/07/24
It’s nothing like a home mortgage… The buyers a...
Red Public Bath Fat Ankles
  07/08/24
The debt is secured by the corporate shares. The bank takes...
adventurous selfie
  07/08/24
TCR and the bank doesn't care because the MD on the account ...
Bistre pit
  07/08/24
And the employees
Red Public Bath Fat Ankles
  07/09/24
sure I guess but if your company is getting acquired by a PE...
adventurous selfie
  07/09/24
I want to know if there are any actual success stories where...
Vibrant navy therapy gas station
  07/09/24
Fortunoff sold to a PE fund in 2005 who then destroyed the n...
Bistre pit
  07/09/24
How long is the long run? The issue is that eventually they ...
Red Public Bath Fat Ankles
  07/11/24
Dip Trip, Jew Fantasia
Indecent Doctorate
  07/11/24


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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:28 PM
Author: Red Public Bath Fat Ankles

“Hey, I’ll buy you, and I’ll put a small fraction down and you will take a loan out yourself so I can buy you, and I’ll be paid back first”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818033)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: Contagious Cumskin

I’ve first hand seen this work out very favorably for the target company but I guess that’s probably the exception given all the negative stuff you hear about PE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818043)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:40 PM
Author: Red Public Bath Fat Ankles

It works out great for management which is why it was invented. It’s just a scam to load up an entity with debt so management gets paid $$. It’s still weird they’re able to have so much leverage though and get so much of the upside. They’re literally converting company assets into their own equity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818089)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:50 PM
Author: Contagious Cumskin

So who is footing the bill in the end?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818120)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:56 PM
Author: Red Public Bath Fat Ankles

In the end if it works out then everyone is happy. If it doesn’t then PE is still likely safe since they prioritize everything for themselves. Then the company and employees are fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818136)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: adventurous selfie

The “company” doesnt exist aside from the new shareholders.

Banks get fucked for lending money that doesn’t get paid back, and the employees too getting laid off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818150)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 2:26 AM
Author: racy juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47823177)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 4:43 PM
Author: Exhilarant maroon base mexican

aren't ipods crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818097)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:00 PM
Author: Marvelous cuckoldry

it's just tax arbitrage. a good scam if u can get in on it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818144)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: adventurous selfie

I don’t think the shareholders selling the stock take a loan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818146)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:14 PM
Author: pink razzle-dazzle indirect expression theater stage

That shit that went down with Red Lobster was crazy, basically legal fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818171)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 5:33 PM
Author: domesticated locus

the seller doesn't owe the loan. the buyer owes the loan with the purchased company as collateral. it is basically identical to a home mortgage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818212)



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Date: July 7th, 2024 8:02 PM
Author: adventurous selfie

these people are idiots don’t bother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47818539)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 7:13 AM
Author: Red Public Bath Fat Ankles

It’s nothing like a home mortgage… The buyers are not personally guaranteeing the debt…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47819508)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:17 AM
Author: adventurous selfie

The debt is secured by the corporate shares. The bank takes the risk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47819885)



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Date: July 8th, 2024 10:21 AM
Author: Bistre pit

TCR and the bank doesn't care because the MD on the account will be an MD at another bank in 4 years when everything explodes and he is just chasing his 8 figure fee on the deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47819895)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 2:23 AM
Author: Red Public Bath Fat Ankles

And the employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47823172)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 10:29 AM
Author: adventurous selfie

sure I guess but if your company is getting acquired by a PE firm it’s time to start looking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47823664)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 5:55 AM
Author: Vibrant navy therapy gas station

I want to know if there are any actual success stories where PE taking over a family business actually worked in the long run. Seems like you hear a lot these days about PE targeting those types of companies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47823284)



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Date: July 9th, 2024 6:06 AM
Author: Bistre pit

Fortunoff sold to a PE fund in 2005 who then destroyed the nearly 100 year old franchise. Another PE took over in 2009 and did even more damage. The family then bought back the business for something like 5 cents on the dollar and fixed most of it and now it's back to over 30 stores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47823288)



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Date: July 11th, 2024 8:39 AM
Author: Red Public Bath Fat Ankles

How long is the long run? The issue is that eventually they overplay their hand and there’s too much debt to sustain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47830347)



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Date: July 11th, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: Indecent Doctorate

Dip Trip, Jew Fantasia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5551798&forum_id=2Reputation#47830348)