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Epstein question. Do we think he killed himself?

Options: 1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed...
Primrose Low-t Yarmulke Place Of Business
  07/16/25
go back to MPC
racy plum dopamine
  07/16/25
What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits...
claret newt toaster
  07/16/25
I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagi...
salmon exhilarant windowlicker
  07/16/25
Cthulu?
Territorial business firm
  07/16/25
i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the R...
Misunderstood idiotic immigrant
  07/16/25
One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is ove...
massive supple useless brakes
  07/16/25
Can you ask grok what he thinks?
Yapping Translucent Double Fault Deer Antler
  07/16/25
3. He never died.
demanding mustard nibblets
  07/16/25
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Puce Slippery Background Story
  07/16/25
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razzle-dazzle incel tank
  07/16/25
it’s insane to believe that this man was running perha...
Puce Slippery Background Story
  07/16/25
If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himsel...
Primrose Low-t Yarmulke Place Of Business
  07/16/25
agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running&r...
Puce Slippery Background Story
  07/16/25
He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine...
bossy dragon
  07/16/25
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salmon exhilarant windowlicker
  07/16/25
If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to e...
claret newt toaster
  07/16/25
That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two week...
khaki public bath regret
  07/16/25
do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter ...
Puce Slippery Background Story
  07/16/25
This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises c...
glassy galvanic meetinghouse
  07/16/25
Yes. Trump would never lie
Floppy principal's office friendly grandma
  07/16/25
Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets...
Primrose Low-t Yarmulke Place Of Business
  07/16/25
esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to...
Floppy principal's office friendly grandma
  07/16/25
These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+.
Primrose Low-t Yarmulke Place Of Business
  07/16/25
So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad.
Floppy principal's office friendly grandma
  07/16/25
cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and...
elite bull headed spot
  07/16/25
(thomas jefferson)
elite bull headed spot
  07/16/25
he was clearly killed
Very Tactful Site
  07/16/25
Hell to the NO
Big cowardly old irish cottage
  07/16/25
Define "killed." I think the most likely explanati...
Unhinged chartreuse brunch organic girlfriend
  07/16/25
What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind o...
Well-lubricated spectacular gas station
  07/16/25
Epstein was only the second successful “suicide”...
glassy galvanic meetinghouse
  07/16/25
Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wh...
Boyish Trailer Park
  07/16/25
necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians...
arrogant associate
  07/16/25
imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himse...
Hilarious internal respiration
  07/16/25
otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young...
flesh church affirmative action
  07/16/25


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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: Primrose Low-t Yarmulke Place Of Business

Options:

1. He is so loyal to his handlers that he killed himself in jail.

2. He was killed.

3. He didn't die when he was reported to die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105489)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: racy plum dopamine

go back to MPC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105517)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: claret newt toaster

What about he was facing life in prison, endless civil suits, and a stained very-public reputation, so he killed himself to avoid those consequences?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105827)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:36 AM
Author: salmon exhilarant windowlicker

I don't have any particular 'theory of the case' but I imagine the suicide was allowed to happen (vs someone slipping in and assassinating him)

Whether that was from his own depression, his loyalty to someone else, or some sort of occult or technological or psychological control, I have no idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105496)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:25 PM
Author: Territorial business firm

Cthulu?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105771)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: Misunderstood idiotic immigrant

i am beginning to sense that Epstein being murdered is the Reddit Opinion, so I am now on team Epstein Killed Himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105500)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: massive supple useless brakes

One of those situations where circumstantial evidence is overwhelmingly against, but because there is no direct evidence proponents of the suicide claim can just stigmatize doubters as insane, and constantly demand direct evidence

Circumstantial evidence:

- Very hard to physically kill self in suicide prevention cells in fed detention. Clothes and sheets are rip-away. Beds are short.

- This was most famous inmate in history of fed custody, whose well-being would be primary concern of entire administration

- Credible testimony from lawyer that JE was in good spirits

- Objective evidence that JE was actively preparing for trial

- Multiple layers of failsafes: Multiple cameras, multiple guards. Each and every layer happened to fail simultaneously

- Less credible testimonial evidence of unusual activity at jail. Transport van arriving on weekend, not typical. Van not being signed in, not typical, etc.

Contextualize all of the above with the general suspicion, supported by the Palm Beach's DA on the record testimony ("he's with intelligence"), that JE was involved in secret state activities which means powerful forces would WANT him dead.

So you have motive, and a ton of circumstantial evidence.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105503)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Yapping Translucent Double Fault Deer Antler

Can you ask grok what he thinks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105762)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: demanding mustard nibblets

3. He never died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105579)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: Puce Slippery Background Story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105580)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle incel tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105830)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: Puce Slippery Background Story

it’s insane to believe that this man was running perhaps the largest blackmail scheme in human history involving billionaires and heads of state and his only recourse once arrested via typical channels was to kill himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105582)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: Primrose Low-t Yarmulke Place Of Business

If he was a loyal intelligence set, maybe he did kill himself. I don't know but it is possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105586)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Puce Slippery Background Story

agreed, but this would mean he wasn’t “running” the operation, which should imply new and deeper questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105592)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: bossy dragon

He killed himself out of shame upon realizing that ghislaine maxwell is a reddit moderator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105583)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: salmon exhilarant windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105588)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: claret newt toaster

If you think he didn’t kill himself then you need to explain his failed suicide attempt 2 weeks before he died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105585)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: khaki public bath regret

That part of the story is almost never brought up. Two weeks before he allegedly kills himself he’s found in his cell with bruises around his neck. They put him on suicide watch, per protocols, which requires heightened surveillance. Two weeks later he’s dead by suicide. In the interim he’d been working with his lawyers in preparation for his bail hearing (I think) and felt optimistic that he would be released because of the broad agreement that was in place as part of his prior conviction. But then security completely lapsed one night and he decided to lull himself again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106078)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:03 PM
Author: Puce Slippery Background Story

do you think it would be harder to stage a suicide or enter a failed suicide attempt into the record?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106346)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: glassy galvanic meetinghouse

This guy tried to kill him, that’s where the bruises came from.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/us/nicholas-tartaglione-sentenced-epstein-cellmate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106379)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Floppy principal's office friendly grandma

Yes. Trump would never lie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105765)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Primrose Low-t Yarmulke Place Of Business

Sometimes the government is obligated to lie or keep secrets and we have to accept that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105780)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Floppy principal's office friendly grandma

esp about raping American kids. We wouldnt want the truth to come out and upset people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105829)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: Primrose Low-t Yarmulke Place Of Business

These weren't kids or pedophile stuff. These girls were 16+.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106042)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Floppy principal's office friendly grandma

So if no crime, why cover up? You can fuck 16-17 abroad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106074)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: elite bull headed spot

cuz government are our betters and we must kiss the ring and bless their kiddie sex

it's the ideal that birthed our nation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106076)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: elite bull headed spot

(thomas jefferson)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105986)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: Very Tactful Site

he was clearly killed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105840)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: Big cowardly old irish cottage

Hell to the NO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49105863)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: Unhinged chartreuse brunch organic girlfriend

Define "killed." I think the most likely explanation was that his jailers knew that he was suicidal and also hated him as a pedo, so they gave him the proverbial rope to hang himself. It is weird, though, that the "full security video" was very obviously edited. I still think the most likely explanation was that the full video showed that they left a sheet or something for him to hang himself with, but it is still strange.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106243)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: Well-lubricated spectacular gas station

What is this "we" bullshit? This isn't some kind of hive consciousness

I'm open to various things, but one of the ones I'm not is suicide. That's fucking ridiculous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106372)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: glassy galvanic meetinghouse

Epstein was only the second successful “suicide” in 40 years at MCC.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/epstein-new-york-lockup-suicides

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106388)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Boyish Trailer Park

Isn't it interesting that they waited until daytime, then wheeled his body, out of a bodybag, face uncovered, out in public so a well-placed photographer could capture a picture of said body, proving that he was, in fact, dead and had not, instead, walked out of jail and into a new chapter of his clearly very well connected life?

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/08/epstein-body.jpg

https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/jeffrey-epsteins-death-three-years-later-what-we-know-and-whats-still-a-mystery/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106448)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: arrogant associate

necessary state hit, he knew too many judges and politicians inside the system, I gather that the reason that public officials are freaking out about releasing the list is that SCOTUS are involved, foreign "dignitaries" etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106449)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:00 PM
Author: Hilarious internal respiration

imo he is too rich and jewish to be killed and to kill himself

only possibility imo is body double + went back to israel to chill and retire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106454)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: flesh church affirmative action

otoh, people accused of sex crimes involving minors or young women often killself, before or after they go to jail.

otoh, inmates had an incentive to kill him regardless of the Mossad-IC angle.

otthirdhand, IC and Mossad had an incentive to have him killed.

otfourthhand, he could have accepted his fate for the greater good and either killedself or didn't fight when the inmate offed him.

how can we really know at this point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750970&forum_id=2Reputation#49106473)