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Weird to realize that DFW never reached my current age

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Alcoholic deranged stock car
  04/17/26
You just now had this realization after 10 years?
frisky church building
  04/17/26
? I'm 47
Alcoholic deranged stock car
  04/17/26
Sure bud, sure
frisky church building
  04/17/26
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Seedy Motley Set
  04/17/26
And yet you’ve never achieved even half his literary s...
well-lubricated exhilarant kitchen
  04/17/26
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cobalt domesticated wagecucks hell
  04/17/26
cr. also jimi hendrix, schubert, mozart, keats
Crystalline hominid
  04/17/26
I started reading Infinite Jest last week btw https://imgur...
Alcoholic deranged stock car
  04/17/26
let us know how far you get. i dont think anyone has complet...
Greedy godawful plaza
  04/17/26
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Violet zippy toaster
  04/17/26
(lebron james reading first page of book)
magical comical kitty cat range
  04/17/26
Do I have to beg for attention on xo, or?
Alcoholic deranged stock car
  04/17/26
hes irrelevant and no one has read his "book"
Burgundy nibblets
  04/17/26
I’ve read IJ twice and everything he’s written a...
well-lubricated exhilarant kitchen
  04/17/26
CR I'm on my first readthru of IJ and already know I need to...
cobalt domesticated wagecucks hell
  04/17/26
sure breh
Burgundy nibblets
  04/17/26
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Violet zippy toaster
  04/17/26
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magical comical kitty cat range
  04/17/26
And he accomplished a million times more than you ever would...
dashing twinkling uncleanness fanboi
  04/17/26
his father was a philospohy professor at an irrelevant state...
Burgundy nibblets
  04/17/26
OP chopped his kids dicks off and sues people for a living.
dashing twinkling uncleanness fanboi
  04/17/26
i feel like that's a bad idea but i guess if your dad REALLY...
Burgundy nibblets
  04/17/26
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dashing twinkling uncleanness fanboi
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dun gas station trump supporter
  04/17/26
He wrote a seminal (heh), 1,000+-page work of postmodern lit...
Violet zippy toaster
  04/17/26
no one read that book, and the people whom "read" ...
Burgundy nibblets
  04/17/26
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Seedy Motley Set
  04/17/26
DFW was a true 180.
aromatic pearly address
  04/17/26
I asked AI to weigh in on which of DFW's Infinite Jest (1996...
aromatic pearly address
  04/17/26


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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:05 PM
Author: Alcoholic deranged stock car



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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:06 PM
Author: frisky church building

You just now had this realization after 10 years?

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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:07 PM
Author: Alcoholic deranged stock car

? I'm 47

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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:13 PM
Author: frisky church building

Sure bud, sure

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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:16 PM
Author: Seedy Motley Set



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Date: April 17th, 2026 2:09 PM
Author: well-lubricated exhilarant kitchen

And yet you’ve never achieved even half his literary success.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49823693)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: cobalt domesticated wagecucks hell



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Date: April 17th, 2026 6:56 PM
Author: Crystalline hominid

cr. also jimi hendrix, schubert, mozart, keats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49823934)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 7:06 PM
Author: Alcoholic deranged stock car

I started reading Infinite Jest last week btw

https://imgur.com/a/4nh16ZE

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Date: April 17th, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: Greedy godawful plaza

let us know how far you get. i dont think anyone has completed it.

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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:32 PM
Author: Violet zippy toaster



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Date: April 17th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: magical comical kitty cat range

(lebron james reading first page of book)

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Date: April 17th, 2026 11:05 PM
Author: Alcoholic deranged stock car

Do I have to beg for attention on xo, or?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824366)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: Burgundy nibblets

hes irrelevant and no one has read his "book"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49823960)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: well-lubricated exhilarant kitchen

I’ve read IJ twice and everything he’s written at least once. It really is that good.

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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:19 PM
Author: cobalt domesticated wagecucks hell

CR I'm on my first readthru of IJ and already know I need to do at least one more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824071)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:19 PM
Author: Burgundy nibblets

sure breh

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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:32 PM
Author: Violet zippy toaster



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Date: April 17th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: magical comical kitty cat range



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:22 PM
Author: dashing twinkling uncleanness fanboi

And he accomplished a million times more than you ever would in a million years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824076)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:23 PM
Author: Burgundy nibblets

his father was a philospohy professor at an irrelevant state school, and he wrote long, genx-coded books that had no apparent thesis other than "drug yourself then withdrawal until you literally kill yourself," which i guess is a sort of genx manifesto or w/e made more salient by the fact that literally no one bothered to read them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824077)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: dashing twinkling uncleanness fanboi

OP chopped his kids dicks off and sues people for a living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824080)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:30 PM
Author: Burgundy nibblets

i feel like that's a bad idea but i guess if your dad REALLY liked low iq catholic/Aristotelian moral theory i could see how that could happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824086)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: dashing twinkling uncleanness fanboi



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Date: April 17th, 2026 9:08 PM
Author: dun gas station trump supporter



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:52 PM
Author: Violet zippy toaster

He wrote a seminal (heh), 1,000+-page work of postmodern literature that remained engaging, compelling, and memorable across that many pages. Then, given that he was a big time depressedmo and not having a good time and didn't really have a future prospect of having a good time, he hit that dusty trail and shuffled off to Buffalo.

Also, age is flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824124)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Burgundy nibblets

no one read that book, and the people whom "read" it only say it was good because they wasted that much time on a genx slop piece. it has nothing to do with defining pomo lit, it was way too late for that to be true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824127)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Seedy Motley Set



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Date: April 17th, 2026 11:15 PM
Author: aromatic pearly address

DFW was a true 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824373)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 11:29 PM
Author: aromatic pearly address

I asked AI to weigh in on which of DFW's Infinite Jest (1996) or Coetzee's Disgrace (1999) would better stand the test of time:

If the core of Infinite Jest is a warning about the addictive potential of a static screen, the 2020s haven't just ignored the warning—we’ve internalized the addiction to the point where DFW’s "lethal" film looks quaint compared to an algorithmic feed designed by neuroscientists.

You’ve touched on why Coetzee tends to age like a fine, albeit very bitter, wine while maximalist "Great American Novels" often start to smell like a time capsule:

The "Noise" vs. The "Signal"

The Trap of Specificity: DFW tried to capture the mechanics of 1990s alienation. When the mechanics change—when the "Entertainment" is no longer a cartridge but a constant, invisible stream—the book begins to feel like a manual for a machine no longer in use.

The Universality of the Fall: Disgrace doesn't care about the technology of its era. It deals with the fundamental friction between the individual and a changing moral landscape. David Lurie’s fall from grace isn't tied to the 1990s; it’s tied to the ancient, recurring themes of pride, the loss of power, and the terrifying necessity of "starting from zero."

The "Death of Man"

You’re pointing toward the idea that DFW was writing about sociology, while Coetzee was writing about theology (in a secular sense).

Wallace asked: How do we stop watching the screen?

Coetzee asked: How do we endure the state of being an animal among other animals once our pretenses are gone?

In 2026, the question of how to handle a "film" is an archive project. The question of how to live with yourself after your social and moral standing has been vaporized—the "true human condition," as you put it—is the only thing that actually keeps a reader up at night.

The Anachronism of Irony

There is also the "Gen-X Irony" problem. DFW was obsessed with the trap of irony, but his prose is often deeply performative. It’s a "look-at-me" style of writing about the "look-at-me" culture. Coetzee’s prose is a scouring pad. It is so devoid of ornament that there is nothing for time to erode. It’s already been reduced to the bone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5857861&forum_id=2Reputation#49824382)