it is inconvenient to go to vegas to gamble. it's far more convenient to have draftkings on your phone. but that cost to gambling meant it was harder for people to gamble away their money, so there were fewer of them.

it is inconvenient to go to events in person. but people who actually bother to show up tend to be more invested in the purpose compared to a zoom meeting.

it is inconvenient to go to vote in person. i don't trust the people who are unwilling to endure that inconvenience to also suffer the inconvenience of learning or caring about who the candidates are and what the issues are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109276)

If someone votes early then they’re not impacted by a late October surprise like the Hunter Biden laptop which seems unfair to Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109049)

what i'm more concerned about is being able to engage in sense-making after an election. like we generally try to figure out what an election was *about*, what the voters were responding to etc., in order to figure out what sort of reforms politicians were expected to introduce and then judge whether they lived up to their expectations. That's obviously a very hard endeavor in any case, but an extended election season makes it basically impossible. a long enough cycle and the voters are basically participating in different "elections" that happen to be getting counted together. and so that makes the sense-making task and the task of judging politicians enormously more difficult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109295)

2) the should be some cost to voting as it'll mean more serious and informed people will bother to vote. spending 5 minutes to vote in person seems like the absolute lowest conceivable "skin in the game" threshold, and libs are trying to remove even that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48108948)

The American approach to voting was based on an informed and educated electorate following the campaigning and then at the very end going to the polls and casting their ballot, all on the same day nationwide. The early voting model isn't based on an informed and educated electorate going to the polls because when you open voting two months early, you're removing the "informed and educated" component from the voting. So much can happen and change in two months. We make fun of October surprises and they can be unfair, but we're also removing that opportunity to change your mind while the campaigning is still going on, as you learn new things about the candidates and their platforms. Most countries that we consider our democratic peers don't allow early voting.

Your second comment is also spot on and echoes a professor I had who once commented that it is wise not to try too hard to go after the votes of the bottom 1/3 of society. I apply this to both parties, FYI.

All the changes and reforms of the last decade has been undermining the concept of treating everyone as independent free-thinking voters making their own minds and shifting to a much more partisan approach to politics where you're just seen as a vote for either the Democrats or Republicans and nothing more. Sadly, voters themselves are adopting this attitude too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109045)

these ideas aren't new. since democracy was invented there has been much debate about making sure voters were informed and acting in the interest of the public. it's a fundamental principle that there would need to be some threshold for this. the debate continues today e.g. felons voting. there is a reason the 19th amendment required a constitutional amendment.

the idea of a poll test or tax or requirement of owning land or something is far-fetched. but at the very least i think you should actually have to show the fuck up. and i agree this is universal and non-partisan. the voter ID debate is common sense but i didn't care too much since i don't think that level of voter fraud is that impactful. but the early voting shit shocks my conscious. i mean, kamala was "nominated" without a primary and has barely made public experiences, and they're trying to reduce her already insanely short campaign timeline even further!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109216)

Which backs up my last comment about America moving sharply towards a political model when politics is now identity and it doesn't really matter who you're actually voting for. The Democrats and their voters already accept this. The party of the people has morphed into the party of elitism. Their voters will never punish their party or defy their party leadership, which is something that Republican voters regularly do. But it does mean Republicans are far behind the curve of our evolving modern politics, even if they don't help themselves by allowing crazies to get nominated in winnable elections. But that still shows the Republicans operate to political precedents and a political framework that is far more directly engaged with actual voters, even if it is dying out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109795)

Quotemo retard who people keep responding to for some reason: "But whhhhhyyyyy?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48108958)

Why not just let people sign up for an auto-renewing subscription to vote for every D or R candidate in every election for the rest of their lives? That would increase voter turnout even more!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109164)

Faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109196)

In Trump era however, easier voting probably is a wash or even benefits Trumpmos because libs now win super engaged (i.e., college educated) voters by massive margins. You can see this in off year elections and special elections where there is low turnout, Dems have been destroying the GOP over the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48109199)

People who work at gas stations and fast food should be able to keep their job, pick up their kids from school and vote. The only reason to put up impediments is to make sure they don't vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48110281)

Under you system, lazy degenerate Democrats get to vote without friction, but salt-of-the-earth working Republicans are hindered. Seems smart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48110294)

Voter ID required to vote 100% of the time.

Generous early voting with long hours starting 2 weeks before Election Day.

Mail in voting only as needed (age 70+, active military, demonstrated physical disability). Mail in voting privileges subject to renewal every 2 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5592931&forum_id=2Reputation#48110351)