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How bad is a 500 blood sugar reading?
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:12 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend I spent a day in the ER after chemo when they drew blood and found that my glucose was at 492. ER put me on a few drugs and suspects the diabetic numbers are caused by one of the chemo medications.
They put me on Metformin and Januvia and it seems to be helping. I'm down to 200's now.
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:14 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location I didn't think it was actually possible to push into the 400s even with severe diabetes. I think most of the Eric Garner types chill in the low 300s. Doesn't DKA usually pwn you when you start to go over 350? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669412) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:16 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend I don't know. My piss smells like fried chicken and I have to piss all the time. How bad is DKA? The ER doc talked to me about it, but didn't make a big deal since I didn't feel bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669428) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:17 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location Dude yeah, be thankful if you can keep it under 250. My understanding of DKA is that it can fuck you up really fast. A healthy fasting range is 90+105 and spiking maybe up to 160s if you eat a bunch of cake and drink wine. I don't have a1c charts memorized but at 200 after 12 hours without food you are well into uncontrolled diabetes territory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669433) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:18 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend Going to do some research now. Doc didn't try and scare me or anything, so I kind of just went along with it.
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:43 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal In my experience, if you are running 500-600+ for any period of time (a week or more) it's a trip to the ICU until they can get your blood sugar under control with IV insulin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671176) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:32 PM Author: yellow diverse water buffalo With DKA, your blood turns to acid. You will be thirsty as hell and puke up all the water you drink, thus, causing more dehydration.
Only way to fix it is an IV with insulin and saline. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:18 PM Author: Arousing mahogany therapy That’s really bad, man. Keep taking the meds and get it under control. You’re lucky you didn’t go in DKA or HHS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669449) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:19 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend I've been about 250's when I wake up for the past few days. At night, it's been in the 300's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669456) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:22 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location Yeah that's Eric Garner territory. Any idea how long you've been like this?
Don't fall for snake oil like glipizide. All that does is jack up your insulin levels. The real issue is not the sugar but the insulin response it provokes. It sounds like maybe your liver is cranking out a ton of sugar. Think of the sugar as a proxy for measuring the amount of insulin your pancreas is producing. THAT is what you need to control.
Diabetes can be temporary. A lot of pregnant chicks get it while they're pregnant but then it goes away. Don't know how long you'll be on these meds but you don't ever want to see 300s |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:25 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend I need to google Eric Garner.
It's been in the 300's for like 4 months and it's gradually going upward as chemo goes on. I have 4 more treatments, and the doctors think the dexomethosone I take for a few days after chemo is causing it. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:28 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location I think you can probably go ~1 year at those levels before it causes genuine long term insulin resistance. I don't know. The good news though is that insulin resistance is reversible. Insulin is like any other substance in that you build up tolerance over time, and it takes more and more of it to do it's job. Reduce the insulin and your tolerance drops. Right now your body is being bombarded with heavy doses of insulin, and if that keeps up you will become insulin resistant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669524) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:29 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend TYTYTYTYTYT
Is this Jag? |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:30 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location Nope. Jag doesn't actually get this shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669535) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:40 PM Author: Contagious Temple What do you mean he doesn't get this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669607) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:44 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location I mean I recently saw him tell a poaster that anyone over 8.0 a1c can never cure diabetes and will need insulin forever. I took my a1c from 9.9 6 years ago to 6.1 today. It took me a year to get to pre-diabetic levels. No offense to Jag but most doctors are clueless because they've never actually had a diabetic patient who had THE DISCIPLINE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669627) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:47 PM Author: Jade property 180 how much weight did you lose? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669640) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:50 PM Author: burgundy stag film I only lost about 20lb and I beatit. was never really "fat" in the sense that people didn't look at me and think "there's a fat guy." I had been athletic when I was younger though and lost a ton of muscle over the years. A lot of it was about putting dat muscle back on and not eating before bed. Not smoking weed helped a ton and I'm convinced that weed-induced inertia + munchies was a major factor in my situation. Imagine a decade of couch lock and eating chips and salsa. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669661) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:52 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend I'm 190 and 5'11. I've done more weed in the past 4 months than in my entire life cumulative up to this point.
I'll cut that out asap. Munchies haven't been a good thing for me lately.
I thought keeping weight on during chemo would be a good thing, apparently not. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:13 PM Author: burgundy stag film For me it wasn't about how much I weighed per sec but whether I was gaining or losing it. If I only lost only a pound in any given month, my glucose levels would be down significantly that same month. But also, your body consumes sugar just maintaining muscle so adding any amount of muscle helps. Your biggest muscles are in your thighs so you get a bigger ROI by targeting those. It also matters where you are fat. Abdominal fat is worse than fat in any other region. It means you have fat around your liver and other organs, which is what gets you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669775) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:13 PM Author: Arousing mahogany therapy Dude, it has nothing to do with diet or working out. It’s just the decadron you’re on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669779) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:17 PM Author: burgundy stag film It never helps to be fat or in a state of weight gain, and exercise always helps. Just because his diabetes is being a caused by a drug doesn't mean be can't do things to bring glucose down. Anything you do that consumes glucose is helpful.
Though to be honest I was never as fucked as him. I think my highest a1c was 7.2. I only broke 300 when I was sick. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:19 PM Author: Arousing mahogany therapy LOL he’s on high dose decadron. His hyperglycemia is 100% a result of that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669810) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:22 PM Author: burgundy stag film Because it's fucking up his liver, which as the other poaster said is making excess glucose. There's nothing he can do about that but he can burn up some of that glucose. Even taking a walk makes a difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669821) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:25 PM Author: slap-happy silver prole You were barely diabetic. I mean good job getting it under control, but you were basically a pre-diabetic who just needed to get off the couch. My dad's a1c was 14 point something when he was diagnosed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669840) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:59 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location Right on brother it's even easier with CGM technology now. I used the Dexcom g5 for a while. It was expensive and the sensors kept falling off, but I could watch what my organs were doing in real time. There are like 8 different types of CGM you can get now, including one that's implanted under your skin so you don't have to explain it to women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669717) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:03 PM Author: cowardly abnormal wagecucks DXCM up bigly since the rona hit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669733) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:14 PM Author: burgundy stag film I did this all with just a glucometer. CGMs look 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669789) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:33 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal If he's not a T1 and his hyperglycemia is only being caused by the chemo he doesn't need to get a CGM, total overkill. Just go to Walmart and get the cheapo Relion meter and strips. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671113) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:54 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location At peak fat I was 6'1 250. Now 6'1 205-215. Whenever my bg was high I would do some exercise and it would drop immediately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669681) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:27 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend Garner had been arrested by the NYPD more than 30 times since 1980 on charges such as assault, resisting arrest, and grand larceny.[15][16] According to an article in The New York Times many of these arrests had been for allegedly selling unlicensed cigarettes.[17] In 2007, he filed a handwritten complaint[18] in federal court accusing a police officer of conducting a cavity search of him on the street, "digging his fingers in my rectum in the middle of the street" while people passed by.[11] Garner had, according to The New York Times, "recently ... told lawyers at Legal Aid that he intended to take all the cases against him to trial".[11] At the time of the incident, he was out on bail for allegedly selling untaxed cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession, and false impersonation.[19] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669516) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:31 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location He didn't die from a "chokehold," he died because he was a big fat diabetic and his heart gave out when it was put under moderate stress. Blacks everywhere have uncontrolled diabetes causing them to die early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669551) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:04 PM Author: cowardly abnormal wagecucks Something like 55% of latinos over 40 are diabetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669741) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:28 PM Author: Arousing mahogany therapy That’s not great but Is more of a thing that would cause long term issues. It sounds like this should be temporary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669519) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:24 PM Author: emerald base generalized bond what dose metformin did they put u on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669485) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:26 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend I don't know... I didn't know there were different kinds. It's supposed to get the pancreas to produce more insulin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669501) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:32 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend just checked 500mg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669560) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:33 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location Max dose is like 4x that but maybe it interacts with other meds you're taking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669563) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:28 PM Author: slap-happy silver prole It made my dad shit uncontrollably. There's a reason they don't give you too much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669850) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 11:14 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend They warned me about that, but it hasn't done enough to combat the constipation from chemotherapy or my horrendous hemorrhoids.
Every painless shit is a blessing. Haven't had a painless shit in 4 months.
My last shit was like a shit volcano erupting out of the watery bowl, surrounded by bloody lava. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:44 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal That's a small dose, many people are on 2500mg a day with no side effects.
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:30 PM Author: yellow diverse water buffalo As a Type 1 diabetic, condolences.
Insulin is $300 a vial, and that’s a bitch.
Also welcome to #Medicare4All and #insulin4all |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:31 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend Don't you have insurance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669546) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:34 PM Author: yellow diverse water buffalo I do. I get mine in Canada though so it’s nbd for me.
Not everyone gets to be a well insured lawyer though. |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:36 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend Ahhh... good point. I'm an oilfield schlep that has really good insurance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669583) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:39 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669597) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:39 PM Author: Curious ivory background story location If he goes on insulin for any length of time won't that fuck up his pancreas? I think you want to avoid taking it except as a last resort. This isn't an issue for t1 obviously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669601) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:31 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal No. Just the opposite actually. Although taking injectable insulin while the pancreas is still producing 'normal' levels of insulin can pose dosing challenges and usually needs to be done under medical supervision. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671102) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:19 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal The fuck? Do you not have insurance? Mine is a 10$ copay. Also insulin doesn't come in 'vials' anymore. Do you also boil your needles on the stove? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671034) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:00 AM Author: yellow diverse water buffalo Never change Autoadmit.
Different insurance charges different prescriptions differently. Because there is no generic rDNA/analog insulin, some insurances cover it in tiers. Others have all copays for all prescriptions.
How the fuck do you think an insulin pump works if insulin is only in pens? How exactly would it get in there?
https://www.humalog.com/institution/ |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:04 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal Cartridges, which is what I've always called them and every other diabetic I know. Vials to a diabetic reminds us of the bad old days of insulin administration.
Also (no doobs) but what state do you live in? Some states, like NY, mandate coverage for diabetic products and impose price limits on insulin. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:12 AM Author: yellow diverse water buffalo 10-4.
I can almost guarantee you your cost is because of your prescription coverage. I do a lot of work for an insulin pricing nonprofit, and there are definitely issues in NYS.
Regardless, they don't do that shit in red America where I live. Freedom and liberty or something. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:15 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal Sorry bro, thoughts and prayers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671327) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:51 PM Author: Awkward theater stage philosopher-king call 911 go the ER immediately bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669666) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 9:53 PM Author: Swollen angry gaping telephone Are you made of cotton candy? If not, you've got a problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669676) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 10:02 PM Author: cowardly abnormal wagecucks jfc I thought this was flame. how are you alive? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40669727) |
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Date: July 27th, 2020 11:15 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend fuck if i know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40670015) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:17 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal T1 diabetic here. Was over 500 when I was diagnosed. Running 300+ glucose for a year or more might not kill you, but might have some nasty side effects if your sugars rapidly return to normal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671024) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:34 AM Author: rough-skinned fragrant church building death wish Horrible. I got a 110 and am maf at myself. Too much Coca Cola but it's sooo good :(
You mentioned being on a corticosteroid... those are often really, really bad news. People on stuff like prednisone turn into swollen-faced irritable monsters who shovel food in their mouths.
Granted, I know that eating isn't your issue. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:41 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal Why are you mad at a 110? Is that your fasting or after eating? Either way it's well within the normal range. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671166) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:44 AM Author: rough-skinned fragrant church building death wish Fasting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671181) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:47 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal If it continues to climb I would be concerned. Also, everyone's "normal" range is not the same. Some people just naturally run slightly higher than others due to genetics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671198) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:49 AM Author: rough-skinned fragrant church building death wish ty, that makes sense. There were other times in the past I'd be at like 103, then other times 90, so it has varied.
I had started having sweetened condensed milk and black tea. That plus the soda. So I hope it was just a lot of dietary sugar at that time. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:51 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal Fasting blood glucose is just a snapshot of what your BG was at that exact moment in time. It's hard to draw conclusions about overall health based on it (unless it's something like 200+). Just have your A1C done next time you get blood work (suprised they don't do it automatically) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671219) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:52 AM Author: rough-skinned fragrant church building death wish My bad - they did. It was 5.12. In the past it was right at like 5.5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671227) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal That's square within the normal range. If you have a history of diabetes in the family though I would start to be proactive with diet and exercise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671240) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:36 AM Author: greedy cracking dilemma You are in my prayers bro, but as someone who had a grandmother with type 2, 500 is not an unusual level to peak at, just get back down quickly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671134) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:52 AM Author: Disrespectful Hot Lodge Dude, it's just some temporary craziness. Don't worry overmuch about it. I drank a whole bottle of prosecco the night before a really early physical, and my blood sugar was crazy high the next day, only because i basically ingested a sugar bowl right beforehand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671229) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 10:02 AM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal It's pretty clear you aren't actually diabetic, not in the traditional sense. You basically have a male version of gestational diabetes. I've known of people on chemo that have dealt with similar issues, managed it with oral medications, and once they were off chemo, blood sugars returned to normal levels. So in that sense, don't freak yourself out and increase your stress over the fact you think you have diabetes or are destroying your pancreas or something. In the meantime, you may want to speak with an endocrinologist, most PCP and Emergency Physicians are really, really clueless when it comes to treating diabetic symptoms or issues with the pancreas/liver. A competent endo will run some special blood tests to rule out auto-immune diabetes and help you better manage the symptoms (most likely through oral medications like metformin or glimepiride). As long as you can keep your BG under 250 (ideally 200) over the short-mid term you should not suffer any permanent side affects from the hyperglycemia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40671264) |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 8:05 PM Author: balding pungent stead legend TY
I didn't know you knew anything about medicine. |
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Date: July 28th, 2020 9:00 PM Author: ocher pistol sneaky criminal 5 years with Type 1 (Auto-immune) Diabetes. Totally came as a shock to me, and was determined to not let it change my life drastically so I've basically become an expert on the disease and how to manage/treat it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#40674798) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:42 PM Author: goy orbison Update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4592912&forum_id=2Reputation#49446601) |