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Question about European feudalism.
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Green Costumed Karate Gaping Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49545634) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49604959) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:08 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49838395) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:38 PM Author: mustard sinister blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49838453) |
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Date: May 13th, 2026 7:20 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49884309) |
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Date: May 19th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49890852) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: balding corner potus Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: vigorous poppy yarmulke lodge Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: balding corner potus (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: vigorous poppy yarmulke lodge They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: balding corner potus read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: vivacious messiness death wish Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: ruby boyish codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: awkward odious dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Milky wrinkle mad-dog skullcap what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: shimmering genital piercing location cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: passionate amber garrison I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: vivacious messiness death wish teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Concupiscible drunken crackhouse feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: know-it-all athletic conference juggernaut i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: charismatic rehab Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: Dull nursing home really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Duck-like Bright Pervert Principal's Office It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: silver floppy set it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: Duck-like Bright Pervert Principal's Office Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: Dull nursing home actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Pungent house 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Pungent house "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Reputation#49838410) |