Has "calories in / calories out" been DEBUNKED?
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Date: December 18th, 2022 9:21 PM Author: supple fuchsia round eye
Oh come on, man. While I generally agree with your statements about some vegetable/seed oils, the highly processed fats found in industrialized baked goods like Oreos are uniquely bad for you.
Until about 10 years ago, almost all the fats found in Oreos were partially hydrogenated, producing trans fats (which could be labeled as unsaturated fats even though they behaved like saturated fats) via trans-cis isomerism. Since trans fats have been banned, industrial food-oil producers have turned to fat interestification to create triglycerides that would not be found in the sources the oils are derived from. Early looks at interestified fats seem to show they seem to promote inflammation and adipose tissue growth.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30813339/
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5255189&forum_id=2Reputation#45653145) |
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Date: December 18th, 2022 9:26 PM Author: twinkling nibblets institution
ctrl + f "mice"
shut the fuck up
show me HUMAN OUTCOME DATA that demonstrates "seed oils" are bad for you
EVERYTHING with human outcome data demonstrates they're health-promoting when consumed in isolation (not wrapped up on junk food) when replacing saturated fat
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5255189&forum_id=2Reputation#45653156) |
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Date: December 18th, 2022 8:16 PM Author: Adventurous awkward headpube
1. It doesn’t mean that as the term is used, otherwise it would be a useless term.
2. No they aren’t, as I just explained. Controlled trials where subjects were fed different diets assigned to them.
The study shows the impact on weight gain that different diets have even if the calories are the exact same. This means that determining whether a diet is advantageous based purely on its caloric content is faulty.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5255189&forum_id=2Reputation#45652850) |
Date: December 18th, 2022 8:30 PM Author: supple fuchsia round eye
As a broad approximation CICO is correct, but it ignores things like the thermic effect of food, insulin response, meal timing, and the impact of a whole slew of other hormones on body composition.
CICO will keep you in a normal BMI, but you’ll never really get cut with it unless you get lucky
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5255189&forum_id=2Reputation#45652911) |
Date: December 18th, 2022 11:03 PM Author: umber den yarmulke
The calories in, calories out argument is pretty stupid.
Yeah, obviously the more of something you eat, the more calories you consume, the more likely you are to gain weight.
But it should be even more obvious that it can't *only* be calories in calories out. It should be evident to even a 5 year old that your body isn't going to process eating ice cream every day vs gorging yourself in one sitting, or drinking sugar water vs celery, in the same way. Plus, everyone shits and everyone shits differently.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5255189&forum_id=2Reputation#45653663) |
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Date: December 21st, 2022 4:27 PM Author: carnelian lodge
This is because corn is highly bio-unavailable, due to how dense the cellulose is.
"100 calories" of corn will not be metabolized the same as 100 calories of sweet potatoes, despite both being complex carbs, due to bioavailability. Moreover, 100 calories of simple carbs will not be digested the same as 100 calories of fats; depending on insulin levels at time of consuming either, you will have radically different rates of metabolism (or fat storage).
Running a caloric deficit is a necessary but insufficient condition for optimal fat loss.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5255189&forum_id=2Reputation#45670256) |
Date: December 19th, 2022 3:14 PM Author: charismatic stubborn laser beams mad cow disease
thermodynamics has been debunked!
of course it's not so simple as "calories in, calories out" as different calories are processed differently by different people. but it is physically impossible to run at a caloric deficit and gain weight.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5255189&forum_id=2Reputation#45657025) |
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